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  •  Here you go, (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    This has been available for quite a while...  so have the depositions and interviews with all the witnesses by the FDLE and Serino.  

    One of the talking heads on CNN blew me away this evening when she said she was stunned/shocked by the testimony of John Good today...   I wasn't, I listened to John Good's interview with Serino a long time ago and knew exactly what he was going to say.  Do these highly paid talking heads do ANY RESEARCH on their own?

    To you, I'm an atheist. To God, I'm the loyal opposition.” ― Woody Allen

    by soros on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 10:03:21 PM PDT

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    •  Thank you. (4+ / 0-)
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      I've listened to much of what you mentioned, but I always thought depositions were considered attorney's working papers, and weren't made public.

      BTW, I listened to Rachel's deposition, and I listened to her full 5.5 hours of testimony this week, and they were the same in regard to material evidence. When I said there were discrepancies in Zimmerman's statement to the PD, they were material discrepancies. Singleton even called him out on them.

      •  Yeah, Rachel was accused of three "lies". (2+ / 0-)
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        One: not using her real name, which she explained by saying that Diamond and Dee Dee are her nicknames.

        Two: saying in the deposition that she did not attend Trayvon's wake/funeral because she was at the hospital, which she explained by saying that she did not want to see her dead friend's body but felt she had to have an excuse as regards TM's parents. She also said around this...you gotta understand, you gotta understand, I was the last person talking to him, which revealed her anguish over not realizing how much trouble he was in.

        Three: Her age. She claimed to be a minor. She explained this by saying that she knew being a minor would take the media and legal heat off of her and she couldn't deal with it.

        None of these things affect her story re: Trayvon Martin, they are personal issues.

        "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

        by rubyr on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 07:50:41 AM PDT

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        •  I suggest you listen to the deposition referenced (1+ / 0-)
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          above. It's identical to the testimony she gave at trial. It was done a year ago, and her story hasn't changed. Even the part about Trayvon saying "get off, get off." The defense seemed to imply that was new. Not so much. The only thing she omitted at trial, and I'm so sorry she did, is she said Trayvon was scared. She said he ran, which would indicate he was scared, but she never said that word.

          •  Are you talking to me? I am in complete (1+ / 0-)
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            agreement with you. The three things I stated are the only
            things she lied about under oath and they are personal and have nothing whatsoever to do with this trial. She was freaked out, as anyone would be, and trying to protect herself and the Martin family. Those are little white lies. She said nothing dishonest when testifying or in any of the interviews that reflect dishonesty on any level other than a personal one and who could blame her?

            Also, using your nickname is not a lie. Here on the GOS, most of us use names other than our own for our personal protection. I wonder if these GZ apologists think that makes almost every person here a liar?

            "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

            by rubyr on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 10:05:19 AM PDT

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        •  Her problem is with the second "lie" (2+ / 0-)
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          The defense got her to admit that she lied about going to the hospital because she didn't want to hurt Trayvon's mother.  The problem is one of her interviews with law enforcement was done with Trayvon's mother sitting next to her, highly unusual.  This is where the problem is.  If she lied to spare Trayvon's mother's feelings once, did she do it again, especially with Trayvon's mother sitting next to her?  That hurts her credibility, not in the she's a bald faced liar sense, but in the she will put other factors above telling the absolute truth sense.

          Of course, there is a difference between lying about going to the hospital and lying about a material fact, but that is for the jury to work out.

          •  I don't know why, but I have faith that the (0+ / 0-)

            jury will work this out. I think her basic "realness" and her lack of sophistication make it very hard to believe that she could form a calculated lie for the purpose of skewing a material fact and I think the jury will sense this, if not process it, as such, intellectually.

            "Nigger" and "crazy ass cracker" are terms that anyone who is calculated would have edited out and she didn't. It speaks to a type of candor that people relate to, I think.

            I may be way off, I hope i'm not.

            I feel that she behaved heroically and put her pain/guilt/fear aside to try and get justice for Trayvon. She is just a kid. My heart broke over and over for her.  

            "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

            by rubyr on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 10:12:29 AM PDT

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