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  •  and then a new, even worse, one (18+ / 0-)

    replaced it.

    Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

    by Deward Hastings on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 09:17:48 AM PDT

    •  The water is getting hot in this pot. n/t (12+ / 0-)

      If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein

      by kharma on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 09:26:11 AM PDT

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      •  Retired E. Ger. Stasi colonel expresses admiration (1+ / 0-)
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        for our domestic spying system:

        Lt.-Col. Wolfgang Schmidt (ret.):

        “You know, for us, this would have been a dream come true,” he said, recalling the days when he was a lieutenant colonel in the defunct communist country’s secret police, the Stasi.

        "There's a conceptual zone within which the romanticized historical past and the immanentizing historical future converge in a swamp of misapprehension and misstep. It's called 'the present'." - David Beige

        by Superskepticalman on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:02:10 PM PDT

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    •  Just read the WaPo from June 15th... (33+ / 0-) underscore the greater realities that assuming everything we're hearing from our government now is the full story. I find that to be one of the biggest ironies of the year. We're witnessing greater and greater control by the 1% over the 99% with every passing day. Technology is replacing human surveillance now more than ever.

      Economically, there are no breadlines these days. We have SNAP cards. The days of the Stasi in overcoats on streetcorners are gone; technology has replaced them.

      To think we're collecting LESS data now than we did just a couple of years ago is something I could only describe as a bogus surveillance state meme. Seriously!? Can anyone truly accept that as fact, on face value, in this day and age?

      First a link to the Reuters piece on the massive growth and increased sophistication of US, urban tech surveillance from this past Friday.

      Many "federal"/NSA surveillance programs have been replaced by LOCAL initiatives with some FBI "oversight." Technology is growing by leaps and bounds; and being implemented at the same pace, too. This is a basic fact that simply isn't highly publicized. There have been millions of warrantless wiretaps throughout the country just over the past 2-3 years, alone.

      And, here's the WaPo piece link and excerpt that I mention above. IMHO, the MOST overlooked piece of journalism of the past month, at least as far as these subjects are concerned. It's not just "the Bush Era." It's the "Inverted Totalitarian Era."

      U.S. surveillance architecture includes collection of revealing Internet, phone metadata
      By Barton Gellman
      Washington Post
      Published: June 15, 2013

      On March 12, 2004, acting attorney general James B. Comey and the Justice Department’s top leadership reached the brink of resignation over electronic surveillance orders that they believed to be illegal.

      President George W. Bush backed down, halting secret foreign-intelligence-gathering operations that had crossed into domestic terrain. That morning marked the beginning of the end of STELLARWIND, the cover name for a set of four surveillance programs that brought Americans and American territory within the domain of the National Security Agency for the first time in decades. It was also a prelude to new legal structures that allowed Bush and then President Obama to reproduce each of those programs and expand their reach.

      What exactly STELLARWIND did has never been disclosed in an unclassified form. Which parts of it did Comey approve? Which did he shut down? What became of the programs when the crisis passed and Comey, now Obama’s expected nominee for FBI director, returned to private life?

      Authoritative new answers to those questions, drawing upon a classified NSA history of STELLARWIND and interviews with high-ranking intelligence officials, offer the clearest map yet of the Bush-era programs and the NSA’s contemporary U.S. operations.

      STELLARWIND was succeeded by four major lines of intelligence collection in the territorial United States, together capable of spanning the full range of modern telecommunications, according to the interviews and documents.

      Foreigners, not Americans, are the NSA’s “targets,” as the law defines that term. But the programs are structured broadly enough that they touch nearly every American household in some way. Obama administration officials and career intelligence officers say Americans should take comfort that privacy protections are built into the design and oversight, but they are not prepared to discuss the details.

      The White House, the NSA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment on the record for this article. A senior intelligence official agreed to answer questions if not identified...

      ...Two of the four collection programs, one each for telephony and the Internet, process trillions of “metadata” records for storage and analysis in systems called MAINWAY and MARINA, respectively. Metadata includes highly revealing information about the times, places, devices and participants in electronic communication, but not its contents. The bulk collection of telephone call records from Verizon Business Services, disclosed this month by the British newspaper the Guardian, is one source of raw intelligence for MAINWAY.

      The other two types of collection, which operate on a much smaller scale, are aimed at content. One of them intercepts telephone calls and routes the spoken words to a system called NUCLEON...

      "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

      by bobswern on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 09:55:55 AM PDT

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