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  •  The threat of these programs is knowing who (0+ / 0-)

    visited these sites with their personal PCs. Last time this happened that threat was communicated and it reached the public. This time its been a bit more cautious, but I have no doubt that nothing has changed.

    The DoD issue now will be a "warning" sign about visiting on private pcs and handheld devices, you wait and see.

    And once again--Keeping people off of FB? That's the straw man.

    I am talking about the news here. This follows a pattern and not a good one, in which a current and the previous administration abused the notion of secret, classified and sensitive categories in order to silence the people, scare them from speaking out over abuses of the government.

    Even a military person has the right to do that, within certain paradigms. And no Service Member should be blocked from reading the News in and about their own country, especially not news that is being taken up by a quarter of the Senate, and used for an inquiry that will affect our freedoms at a fundamental level.

    •  You're really reaching here. (0+ / 0-)

      A place of employment can tell you not to visit ANY websites that don't pertain to work, and it's still not a violation of rights.

      If the best argument you can come up with some hypothetical thing that hasn't happened, then you have nothing.

      A place of employment has every right to dictate how and for what you use their property, which includes computers and communication devices.

      Please proceed, Governor.

      by USArmyParatrooper on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 10:17:57 AM PDT

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      •  No--I am not reaching here--You are just ignorant (0+ / 0-)

        about what's actually going on. When the government has the ability to track every electronic device with internet access, and hold that information indefinitely, and has in the past threatened federal employees and people who might wish to some day work for the federal government [and that includes the DoD] with retaliation for visiting news sites that hold leaked material, then Houston we have a problem.

        And Isolating Military members overseas, deployed on boats, etc., if per chance they are restricted to reading the news on machines--well isn't that a captive audience.

        We aren't talking porn here. Or silliness.

        We are discussing how this government has violated our most fundamental freedoms and has used threats and coercion to chill--any attempt to examine leaked material in the past and offer commentary that would normally fall under protected speech.

        But you know I get the feeling you don't care. That you don't understand that being in the service isn't about disengaging your mind.

        You seem too cozy with the notion that Military Personnel should be blocked from reading Political News about their own Government.

        Well--everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and I just happen to believe that yours stinks.

        •  You know what, you're right! (0+ / 0-)

          I think service members, say, a currently serving active duty Paratrooper with 3rd Brigade 82nd Airborne Division should be allowed to discuss political opinion on websites like Dailykos.

          I think (that hypothetical Paratrooper) should absolutely have access to news sites like the Guardian UK.

          Or this one.

          Or visit the sites of political figures of all ideologies

          It's a shame active duty service members can't go on a high profile liberal website, access said webpages and post links to them without fear of the boogieman.

          Your move.

          Please proceed, Governor.

          by USArmyParatrooper on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 05:17:50 PM PDT

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