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  •  I have a couple ideas for why (10+ / 0-)

    We haven't been visited.

    First, as has been mentioned in the comments, it's damned hard.

    Second, who says we haven't been visited? Even if it was by machines, their machines might be nothing like our machines. They might be microscopic, biological in nature, basically invisible to us.

    Third, we are in a pretty remote area of the galaxy. The boonies, as it were. We might be the interstellar equivalent of some atoll in the pacific - they know we're here, but we don't have anything of interest and we're far enough out of the way that nobody comes by.

    And finally, they might be like the federation. They watch from afar, waiting for us to get to the right level of technological advancement where the advanced cultures and technologies won't overwhelm us completely. Or scare us out of our skulls.

    •  You mean like Hitchhiker's Guide? (3+ / 0-)
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      they know we're here, but we don't have anything of interest and we're far enough out of the way that nobody comes by.

      i.e., "mostly harmless"?

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      by Miscweant on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 07:02:48 AM PDT

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      •  But watch out for that bypass! (0+ / 0-)

        Is it courageous to propose tax cuts but not identify a single tax expenditure to rein in? Is it courageous to target your deepest cuts on the poorest Americans, who vote in lower numbers and provide little in campaign contributions?

        by caul on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 08:03:31 AM PDT

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    •  RE: microscopic (0+ / 0-)

      not impossible, but maybe improbable because the scope of the perceived universe is inherently different for a microscopic particle.  consider the worldview of an amoeba, or say, a flea.   Also propulsion devices would scale differently & impossibly unless the microbes have anitgravity working for them.

      Re Remote: yes... and that would be a tweak to Drake's eq to say "life abounds, but not all that prolifically"

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      by VeggiElaine on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 07:33:32 AM PDT

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    •  right. who would want to visit us openly? (1+ / 0-)
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      Peaceable aliens might well get shot.  Our society is nuts, as is well documented on this site. Who would want to take the chance?

      •  Adventurous tourists (1+ / 0-)
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        You know the type: after growing up in a civilized, peaceful & safe environment (e.g. Europe), some people want to know what life is like in a less civilized environment (e.g. a big American city). Such tourism has been documented elsewhere. (Wikipedia even has an article about ghetto tourism.)

        They come here to gawk at the gang bangers, strawberries, & jaded social workers, maybe become the CEO of a mutlinational corporation or third world country, or taunt the instructors at prestigious universities with questions they learned the answer to in the equivalent of high school on their home planets. Sometimes these tourists end up getting killed, but that's just part of the cost of coming to Earth, part of the adventure.

        Typing all that, I think it's very plausible that ETs have come to Earth, & are amongst us. That odd guy at the corner 7-11 (or the temp worker who seems too smart to settle for such a crappy job)  may not be from a foreign country, but from some place even further away. Short of requiring all new hires to an xray or CAT scan, we may never know if this is, indeed, true.

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