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  •  Your point about time (7+ / 0-)

    is the key.

    I like Carl Sagan's idea of condensing the Universe's age down to one year.  Yosef 52 posted an excellent diary referencing the evolution of modern humans as happening in the last couple of minutes of that time line.  Our modern technology would exist in only a couple of seconds.

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    •  He has a great (2+ / 0-)
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      series, taken from chapters of his recent book. Thanks for mentioning it.

      Ceiling Cat rules....srsly.

      by side pocket on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 08:39:33 AM PDT

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    •  Just as an aside: (3+ / 0-)
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      And in no way arguing the point that we have only been around a couple of seconds.

      There are many new archeological digs that indicate that we have been "agrarian - builders - civilization" far longer than 5,000 years, more like 10,000 to 12,000. There are archeological sites under water off India and Japan that could only have been above water during the last ice age - which was 12,000 years ago.

      The theory is that much of this has gone unpublished or at least doubted because it goes against so much western judeo Christian thought regarding the beginning of "religion and society" - - it is also so long ago that it is damn hard to find evidence of it, but they are starting to do so.

      I find it fascinating and understandable, many in society can't accept evolution - never mind that society may well be two or three times older than previously thought.

      Oh, and aliens? I suspect they are out there. For the sole reason that as indicated, there are so many different worlds that even if 99% faded out - 1% would be a ton of beady eyed perverted sick mofos.  That and I am a bit of a ufo nut.

      Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick: The "party of Jesus" wouldn't invite him to their convention - fearing his "platform."

      by 4CasandChlo on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 10:14:33 AM PDT

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      •  Would these pervert aliens (2+ / 0-)
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        be interested in performing anal probes on humans by any chance?  

        Sorry, I couldn't resist.  

        "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

        by Subterranean on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 10:46:55 AM PDT

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        •  One in the same! (0+ / 0-)

          Do you know the same ones I know? Because, yes, I do seem to be a little concerned about their ummm "interests" in humanity!

          All in fun - no problem "not resisting" that was exactly how I meant it, thanx for posting.

          Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick: The "party of Jesus" wouldn't invite him to their convention - fearing his "platform."

          by 4CasandChlo on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 11:40:59 AM PDT

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      •  The relevant question is (1+ / 0-)
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        how long ago did we develop the capability to make and detect interstellar (or intergalactic) communications?  And more importantly, how long will we retain that capability?

        If the total time is in the hundreds or even thousands of years it is an inconsequential blip and may explain the Fermi Paradox.  Sure, intelligent life may exist elsewhere in the universe, but not at the same TIME as intelligent life on earth.

        •  Sure, I get that. . . (2+ / 0-)
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          And I am actually pessimistic about how long we will retain it.

          Just saying, without comment on us seeing it, that there may be plenty of the little shits flying around out there if .1% of civilizations do make it.

          Don't go all gettin' in the way of my UFO fascination!!! I love being stupid about it!

          Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick: The "party of Jesus" wouldn't invite him to their convention - fearing his "platform."

          by 4CasandChlo on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 12:40:42 PM PDT

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