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  •  Interesting that every Communist regime in (7+ / 0-)

    history has also been "about greed and fucking over the weak for the benefit of the powerful", even if Communism in actual theory is about the opposite.

    I think it's just human nature that the weak get screwed for the benefit of the powerful, regardless of the economic system, in practice, if not in theory.

    Remember what Billie Holiday said

    Them that's got shall get
    Them that's not shall lose
    So the Bible said
    And it still is news

    The strong gets more
    While the weak ones fade
    Empty pockets don't
    Ever make the grade

    I guess socialism is the best system anybody's come up with so far to ensure the fewest percentage of poor and obscenely rich, such that most people are in the middle class and fairly well off (though still some will be much richer than others).

    That said, I personally prefer regulated capitalism (as opposed to laissez faire capitalism), because I do like the idea that if I were to come up with a cool invention or innovative assembly process, that I could start a business and get rich or fail trying.  :)  Socialism has less economic freedom to do that, IMO.  Laissez faire capitalism has too much economic freedom (in that it invites screwing workers, the environment, etc).  Regulated capitalism, if regulated well, can lead to a large middle class, with with a few obscenely rich and an underclass too, so it's not as equitable as socialism.  But capitalism seems to come up with more inventions, advancements, new products.

    BTW, you're posting on a website that I built on capitalism.  I hope you don't think that Kos himself is "about greed and fucking over the week for the benefit of the powerful".  :p

    •  I think our definitions are not (14+ / 0-)

      as mutually exclusive as ideologues would have you believe.  There are gradations between Communism and Capitalism, and Socialism can fall just about anywhere along those lines.  Right now we have a Capitalist system that only benefits one small segment of society, largely since the reagan and Bush tax cuts.  Clinton didn't do us any favors either.  Our problem is that we have a legislative, and executive branch that are largely in the pockets of their corporate donors.  Top that off with a right leaning, activist Supreme court, and we're gonna have a difficult time enacting those regulations you speak so fondly of.  The legislature just doesn't fund the regulatory body if they're ideologically opposed to regulation, or in the corporations pockets.

    •  It's always been one of my objections to this site (1+ / 0-)
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      A for-profit dictatorship.

    •  if this is Capitalism, I'm a Rotarian. (1+ / 0-)
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      Ou sont les neigedens d'antan?

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 07:59:22 AM PDT

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      •  How is it not capitalism? (0+ / 0-)

        Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

        by AaronInSanDiego on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 10:12:23 AM PDT

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        •  Well, here's a short list: (0+ / 0-)

          Collusion amongst many large businesses in the same industry, as with the health insurance industry?

          Endemic lying about the actual value of commodities, almost to the point that no one can determine what the actual value of the article for sale is?

          apparently, also, endemic lying about interest rates?

          The government throwing money at banks, corporations, and wealthy people on a regular basis through bailouts, subsidies, and outright gifts (like the blush-worthy 500 million to Amgen tucked into the "fiscal cliff" bill), so that in many ways, the richest parts of the private sector get money automatically without making or selling anything, sort of the way governments get money through taxes? (hint:  the private sector only pretends not to like this habit of the government. Actually, they're envious of it and want it for themselves).

          The rich being able to seize private property under highly suspicious circumstances, such as one guy getting foreclosed on because he payed his mortgage payment early? to say nothing of the people in Nebraska and Texas whose lands are being seized for Trans Canada under "eminent domain"--at what point did private foreign corporations get the right to force private landowners to sell their lands? How do private sector companies manage to have "eminent domain" over landowners?

          If this is still capitalism, it's morphing into something else much more sinister.

          Ou sont les neigedens d'antan?

          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 11:49:30 AM PDT

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    •  "I built on capitalism"? ugh, "I" should be "is". (0+ / 0-)

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