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  •  I'd Like More Information on "Other" Because of th (14+ / 0-)

    rise of evangelical equivalents that refuse to employ a denomination name, calling themselves just "Christian" or Bible oriented. I could be wrong but my suspicion is that at least a few % in the "other" camp really belong in the Protestant row.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 05:18:07 PM PDT

    •  Jedis, to a person! (7+ / 0-)

      Ok, ok, maybe a few Offlerians or worshippers of Petulia, Goddess of Negotiable Affections as well.

    •  I asked the same question (4+ / 0-)
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      but in a second look the last chart has the first category listed as "Protestant or Other Christian,"  I think that's where the evangelicals are. Other must include Pagan, Hindu and Muslim to name a few possibilities.

    •  The most right-wing Christians I know (2+ / 0-)
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      are of the type you describe. They disdain to identify with any church and prefer a micro-cult-like insularity. It's weird.

      The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

      by psnyder on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 09:22:03 PM PDT

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    •  An Evangelical (2+ / 0-)
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      would  still identify as a protestant.  The "few" is likely statistically insignificant.

      "There ain't no sanity clause." Chico Marx

      by DJ Rix on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 09:48:19 PM PDT

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    •  I think the few that ... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... may apply to answer your question, Gooserock, are probably vastly outnumbered by the people who are agnostic or atheistic but who put down Catholic or Protestant on the survey for fear of reprisal or guilt or wanting to fit in.

      I'm ready to vote for an atheist president as soon as a good, brave one comes along! Looks like the next generation is coming along just fine. Just fine.

      I would tip you, but the man took away my tips.

      by Tortmaster on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 09:57:58 PM PDT

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    •  buddhist, hindu, muslim, etc. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      It's a pretty safe bet that large numbers of the "others" are actually some fairly common form of Christian, whether Protestant or Catholic.  However, for our purposes, as a political community, what the others actually believe isn't important.

      What is important is that when someone starts identifying as "other" or "none," then that person stops voting Republican and stops being conservative.

      The "others" and the "nones" are a diverse group in terms of theological outlook. But in terms of partisan and ideological outlook, they are overwhelmingly liberal Democrats. That works for me.

    •  People who call themselves "Christians"... (4+ / 0-)

      ...instead of "Baptist" or Methodist or whatever, tend to mean that they are Non-Denominational Fundamentalists and are usually a bunch of fundaloon idiots that listen to FuxSnooze, believe that THEIR religious leaders should have control of the country, that anything that the country does that they think is A SIN is reason to accuse the rest of us of violating their rights, (the only way to assuage this complaint is to give them everything they want and right now, dammit) and they are avid followers of everything Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin have to say.

      They look down their noses at EVERYONE who isn't THEM, they question the faith and beliefs of EVERYONE who isn't THEM, they disparage Christian churches that aren't strident lunatics like THEM, saying they are doctrinally impure and they hint that the "Mainstream Churches" or, alternatively, "The National Council of Churches" is actively in league with Satan. No THEY REALLY BELIEVE this shit.

      They also seem to occupy some fantasy world where the incomprehensibly powerful Being Who caused everything in a vast incomprehensible universe to exist is intimately involved in every trivial aspect of their lives, they walk around "immersed" and surrounded by Jesus, Who, apparently isn't polite enough to allow them some privacy while sitting on the toilet or busy in bed procreating more little Fundaloons like Them.

      I don't care what you believe, and I don't care what THEY believe, but THEY have decided that they are morally superior to the rest of us, that they need some sort of parallel society, and they've got a whole network of giant Fundaloon MegaChurches complete with crazy stuff like recreation centers where they sequester themselves away from Mainstream American society.

      A good sign that you're dealing with one of these people is that they are incapable of having any kind of a conversation that doesn't have some reference to Jesus, you could be at Ace Hardware buying plumbing parts to fix your toilet and they'll be chattering about what The Lord showed them the last time they had to fix plumbing.

      If all they did was be annoying, I'd be happy to overlook their quibbles, but they do things to try to control the world around them, they want political control, they want social control, because THEY believe it's their solemn duty to "Take Back Our Country For Christ" and they rally around authoritarian idiots in politics in pursuit of that unattainable Boojum....

      Those of you who hold a belief in a Supreme Being, would you please pray for these people?  They claim to be "Filled with the Holy Spirit" and you'd think they'd be capable of hearing the Holy Spirit of God's gentle whisper, I guess they're too busy BELLOWING to listen.

      One of their pet beliefs is that the Unforgivable sin is "Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" and I believe they do just that every single day, there's an apt verse in the Bible that says "the Name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you"...

      "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

      by leftykook on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 05:25:10 AM PDT

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