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  •  During the Vietnam War, many antiwar... (31+ / 0-)

    ...Americans dissed veterans in various ways although the reporting spitting on veterans as they disembarked upon their return from the war has been debunked. (The real spitting was done by the officials who wouldn't agree that PTSD or Agent Orange were anything to be concerned about and that veterans who said they were big issues were just whiners.)

    One thing several of us war foes in Colorado did was try to find jobs, housing and, when needed, psychological assistance for veterans. We knew they weren't the enemy. It was those who had sent them into combat based on lies. (Tonkin Gulf wasn't the only one.) I chose not to go to fight as a consequence of my politics but also because my best friend (Manny B. Miller, whose name you can find on the Vietnam Memorial Wall) was killed early on there and because of talking to many, many veterans who had actually been in Southeast Asia.

    Please keep up your educational efforts here and elsewhere, angela. We need your voice.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 10:23:20 AM PDT

    •  Let's just emphasize this: (24+ / 0-)
      The real spitting was done by the officials who wouldn't agree that PTSD or Agent Orange were anything to be concerned about and that veterans who said they were big issues were just whiners.
      jimstaro and I tried unsuccessfully to make the point that spitting on veterans wasn't actually done, but treating us with absolute indifference was the type of spit we experienced.

      Hat's off to all of the Vets my age, and I will include myself among this crowd, who have shown today's new veterans what they have to do, and how they need to act to reclaim their citizenship and humanity following service.

      Take a look at Team Rubicon, The Veterans Green Bus, and VoteVets. All of them are working to help people in need - not just veterans of their own war.

      Those who fought the war in Afghanistan won it. Get them out of Afghanistan NOW . . . It's long past time. The time has come to repair this country and care for its' veterans.

      by llbear on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 10:47:38 AM PDT

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    •  I wish more activists were aware of the (12+ / 0-)

      distinction and I appreciate folks like you that are working to make a difference. I'm beginning to wonder if it is enough. You've worked so hard to get Native American issues a voice at NN'13. That tells me you understand how difficult this is. And you work tirelessly towards the goal of integrating Native American concerns with the broader Democratic Party. I'm not sure I have the same energy you do.

      As people become tired of war, they also become tired of hearing about veterans and the military. Who wants to remember the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan? And if we remember our vets, we have to remember the wars. I have to admit that I am a part of that problem... I'm so thankful when I don't have friends deployed because my focus can change.

      I think the hardest part about working with the veteran community is that so many veterans are hurting and they aren't always capable of being their own advocates. It's not unlike my work to fix education for students in lower income communities... the very people that need the most help are fettered by their circumstances. They can't focus 100% effort on changing their communities because they are often too involved with just holding their personal lives together.

      •  We still have WW II vets (1+ / 0-)
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        and Korea, Vietnam, and every other war and police action and political raid on foreign soil since. I remember hearing when the last vet of the Spanish-American War died. I was too young to remember the last Civil War vet dying in 1956, but not by much.

        I put most of my efforts into global education for ending poverty, which is even harder than educating poor children in the US.

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 12:56:06 AM PDT

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