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  •  Unless there is a horrible earthquake (7+ / 0-)

    in Haiti.  Then for a moment all the haters like us just a little bit.  After the crisis is over...return to hate :)

    I think I'm just used to it anymore :)

    I expect it, hell, I even plan for it :)

    It's policy though....obviously

    •  And the worship of the right is just as bad (10+ / 0-)

      Because they think that as long as they worship us, put us on a pedestal, they can kill us for any old reason...Neoconcervative oil dreams....Carlyle's need to plunder the overstocked treasury...just gotta worship us and we should ingest all poisons and lie down like a Jim Jones acolyte.

      Just sux...whaaaaaaaa, good thing I was born tough enough to know my own my mind and my own heart :)

      •  Sux either way... you've got it right. (8+ / 0-)

        Thanks for chiming in Tracy. I can always depend on your support. I know Danang can too.

        •  I am concerned (8+ / 0-)

          Mostly, I'm selfish.  I want him to be strong in his Purple Mtn goal because we (uniformed and their families) need him.  He has a special skill set and a special mindset and we are only at the PTSD beginning, we are going to lose many just getting to where we can save some.

          When I read about Purple Mtn, what goes into my hopper is how do we get a soldier or their spouse on that road if it is what they need?  And I will never forget the Veitnam Vets at Crawford, how they knew what it was like, how they fought for peace while still holding in their arms those serving.  

          •  Purple Mtn goals remain strong. (10+ / 0-)

            Thank you. The Mindful Veterans Project has been providing free education in Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction to veterans, active duty, and their families for 5 years. DaNang is the Outreach Coordinator and you are right, he has a special skill set and mindset.

            How do people find us? Referrals from the VA, Vet Center, Davis Monthan Air Force Base, U of A Veteran Student Association, and mostly from others who have taken the class.

            Class information and much more at the website.

            (Anybody who may be interested in a similar program in your area, please contact me, Teri Davis, through the PMI website.

            "Not wanting something is as good as possessing it." Donald Horban

            by drnatrl on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 07:27:16 PM PDT

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            •  Thanks to you and Danang for your work, drnatrl. (6+ / 0-)
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              Kevskos, OIL GUY, Avilyn, Onomastic, llbear, Vetwife

              As someone with non-combat PTSD, I recognized Danang's symptoms when I saw them, and was absolutely horrified that NN wasn't a safe environment for him.

              Peace and blessings to you both, and many thanks to angelajean for this diary. There is so much support here for Danang and his work that I hope he will remain part of the community.

              But after his experiences at Netroots Nation, those wounds may or may not heal. I appreciate your outreach very much, angelajean, and share your anger. I hope this isn't the end of our communications with Danang. He has very valuable insights and perspectives to share, as do you, angelajean.

              Propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government. ~ Edward Bernays

              by 4Freedom on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 07:16:39 AM PDT

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            •  At first I was wary of PMI & the Mindful Vets Proj (1+ / 0-)
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              There are a lot of good programs out there including yours. When I first got active in convincing the VA that PTS(d) was real, I was afraid that many, many charlatans would show up with magic solutions, potions, and spells. Some did.

              But, Veterans are very hard and extremely skeptical on experimental programs. We are finding that what works for one Vet will not work for another. Being able to predict the needs of any given Vet with PTSD is still either impossible or an art form. Too many diagnosticians believe their analysis of a given Vet is accurate, but the Vet just doesn't want to recover.

              One Vet of Iraq is someone I've helped ever since he was in the service. He just completed a 45 day program at North Chicago's James A. Lovell Federal Health Care Center. I think he is just as brittle as many are following these programs.

              Those who fought the war in Afghanistan won it. Get them out of Afghanistan NOW . . . It's long past time. The time has come to repair this country and care for its' veterans.

              by llbear on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 10:49:30 AM PDT

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    •  It has nothing to do with hating or liking anyone. (1+ / 0-)
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      Kevskos

      I grew up in a very, very military heavy town.  

      As individuals, those in the services (and I mostly knew Marines and Navy) aren't really any different than a cross section of Americans in the same age cohort.

      The occasional PR move doesn't change the purpose of the modern US military though.

      It exists to make the world safe for capitalism.

      Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

      by JesseCW on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 04:16:15 PM PDT

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    •  I am a Progressive who does not hate the troops (3+ / 0-)
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      ER Doc, Kevskos, Onomastic

      for the actions of political leaders. There are others like me.

      But your notion is not a new one.

      For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
      But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
      An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
      An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool—you bet that Tommy sees!
      Tommy, by Rudyard Kipling

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 11:37:17 PM PDT

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