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  •  How am I supposed to respect a fellow vet (0+ / 0-)

    dumb enough to support a Republican war on veterans?

    I respect every soldier who follows the honor code. We all know what it is and we all know what it means to be dishonorable when you are wearing the uniform of the United States. You can't follow the honor code and vote for Republicans because they mislead and lie outright.

    Soldiers can be very supportive of other soldiers who have put everything on the line for their country and at the same time disappointied and disgusted  by those they see as a disgrace to all that sacrifice.

    It wasn't the civilian leaders that people in general and soldiers in particular reacted negatively to in 1968, it was often officers who acted dishonorably in the field.

    Officers  who mislead those under their commands were sometimes fragged in Vietnam.

    I was regular army artillery, trained as a MOS 13E20 (FO) and assigned to a special forces unit 1966-1968.

    I can appreciate that the marines who went to Vietnam in 1965 and served at Danang  are still messed up by the experience all these years later.

    But how can I respect that veterans support of the Republican war on women, and minorities; the obstruction of a congress that needs to function properly to create jobs, protect the poor and elderly, unemployed and disabled, the sick, austerity when what is needed is stimulus.

    Republicans are a disease that America needs to be cured of to deal with climate change before we exterminate everything living on this planet.

    Every person that votes for a Republican is racist because Republican voter suppression is racist.

    I didn't go to NN cause I had other concerns this year, but I can imagine the images the butterfly showed included some atrocities and that there are a lot of vets who think its wrong to make all Vietnam vets responsible for the actions of a few even if the few were rapists, torturers, murderers, literally trophy taking  baby killers.

    Every society has some individuals who lose all their humanity under stress, and there was plenty of stress in that war. Some attempt to justify what they did and some can't and take their own lives to end their pain.

    As for the scandal of Lt Caley and pictures all over the covers of national magazines and tv showing the young girl whose clothes were burned off by napalm running past the ditches where men women and children were lined up and shot by a unit with PTSD that was a horrible shock to people who thought of our troops as heros. That wasn't the sort of thing they expected their heros to be doing.

    I think the people who reacted negatively to that horror by questioning returning troops about what the people who did that were thinking?, what was the justification for that? Was it like that everywhere in the delta? and why were we training young men to kill non combatant women and children? just had their minds blown that American heros could behave like that.

    Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

    by rktect on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 10:49:22 PM PDT

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    •  Our creed is the higher one (1+ / 0-)
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      I'd say respect your brothers and sisters in arms regardless of their political choices. It's not like the Democrats are clean on the issue of veteran's either.

      By refusing to respect and support a fellow veteran based on their politics you are playing into a party system meant to shape your ideology and thus your world view. That bond of service should never be broken by anything so petty.

      •  You have to have standards (0+ / 0-)

        If you just say you are going to respect everybody equally  it makes respect meaningless. I respect what people do if its positive and lose respect for people including other veterans if they act irresponsibly.

        Respect and support aren't always the same thing. A Democrat can help somebody they have no respect for, somebody with an addiction or bad habits, someone with no respect for themselves, somebody who needs healthcare or social security or education maybe unemployment insurance or a way out of prison, someone who needs a way to change their life and earn respect.

        I consider being a Republican requires selfishness and the stupidity of self delusion, exactly the opposite of service. The suppression of other peoples right to vote is cowardly. The denial of climate change foolish, but its not too late to straighten out and become respectable. We can help you here.

        Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

        by rktect on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 02:54:54 AM PDT

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