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  •  do you have any idea what pedophilia is? (1+ / 0-)
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    thestructureguy

    it's sexual attraction to small children

    Trayvon Martin was 17 yrs old, significantly taller than Zimmerman, and going by his most recent photos rather mature and anything but a child in appearance

    the problem was that Zimmerman was out armed and prowling, looking for an opportunity to find someone who would "make his day"

    We're shocked by a naked nipple, but not by naked aggression.

    by Lepanto on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 06:33:52 AM PDT

    •  You need to use a better dictionary. Merriam- (1+ / 0-)
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      Webster defines pedophilia as a "sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object."  Note the absence of the adjective "small" before children in the M-W definition.  Thus, Trayvon did not have to a "small" child, as you claimed, and most will agree that Trayvon, whose 17th birthday occurred just 3 short weeks prior to his murder, was still legally a child at the time of his murder.

      •  Merriam-Webster is wrong then. (0+ / 0-)

        Pedophilia specifically refers to pre-pubescent children.

        •  Then specifically cite your quotation from M-W, (0+ / 0-)

          and place quotation marks around the quotation so that we can distinguish your opinion from the M-W definition.

          •  I don't NEED to cite my quotation from Merriam- (0+ / 0-)

            Webster.  YOU cited Merriam-Webster.  I simply pointed out that the general clinical definition of pedophilia is narrower than that.

            And it's not my opinion.  The DSM-IV, the diagnostic manual used by mental health professionals, defines it as such.

            Unfortunately I can't quote the DSM-IV, since the site I found for it is behind a paywall.

            However, the ICD-10, which is used by the World Health Organization, defines it in the same way:

            " A persistent or a predominant preference for sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children."

            It seems there's more than one person in this thread who needs to use a better dictionary for this topic.

            •  The undermining of your argument is contained in (0+ / 0-)

              your quotation, i.e., "with a prepubescent child or children

            •  I hit the post button too soon in my earlier (0+ / 0-)

              reply.  The point, though, is that pedophilia looks for an impact on children as does statutory rape, and while we may quibble over the definition of a child, Trayvon Martain was not an adult.

              •  Prepubescent means (0+ / 0-)

                before puberty.  You understand this, right?

                No one is denying that Martin was a child.  However, at 17, he was not, in all likelihood, prepubescent.  My argument isn't undermined anywhere.  I'm not saying that an adult liking teenagers isn't still perverted.  I'm simply saying it's not pedophilia.

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