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  •  They use our intelligence I bet you $100 (1+ / 0-)
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    and only the left leaning, leftist, liberal groups in Europe will be outraged, because the right leaning groups are A) Spying on America themselves, and B) probably using our infrastructure to spy on people they want to spy on.  Europeans do the same thing I imagine.

    Sadly nothing will really change.  The mindset of the Cold War lives on in all humans.  

    "Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal."

    by sujigu on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 11:16:50 AM PDT

    •  You can send me the 100$ :-) (2+ / 0-)
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      EU Officials Furious at NSA Spying in Brussels and Germany - SPIEGEL ONLINE

      "It is unacceptable when European diplomats and politicians are spied on in their day-to-day activities," said Manfred Weber, deputy head and security expert for the European People's Party, an amalgam of European center-right parties in European Parliament. "Our confidence has been shaken." Weber is a member of the Christian Social Union, the Bavarian sister party to Merkel's CDU.

      'Our Trust Is at Stake'

      A further Merkel ally in European Parliament, Markus Ferber, accused the US on Sunday of using methods akin to the feared East German secret police, the Stasi. Like Weber, Ferber is a member of the CSU. "A democratic constitutional state that uses Stasi methods sacrifices all credibility as a moral authority," Ferber told the German daily Die Welt on Sunday. "It has destroyed trust."

      The CSU is a right wing party.

      Read the European view at the European Tribune

      by fran1 on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 11:47:42 AM PDT

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      •  Haha it's in the mail (1+ / 0-)
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        Man German conservatives always surprise me.  Well, I do have to remember the far right is basically illegal in their country.  

        Ah well, money talks, bullshit "trust" walks.  

        "Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal."

        by sujigu on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 11:58:20 AM PDT

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        •  I'm dealing with all this with levity (0+ / 0-)

          but honestly, I don't know what to think anymore.  I haven't allowed Snowden or any of these other thoughts to weigh on me too heavily.  My thoughts are probably the only thing I'll have left.

          "Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal."

          by sujigu on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 01:04:58 PM PDT

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