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  •  So why didn't the hebrews think of that?? (2+ / 0-)
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    •  Because we had the practice (3+ / 0-)
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      of copying it down on parchment instead so everybody could own one.

      •  Yeah but you lost the Original! (1+ / 0-)
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        One would think Yahweh or whoever was on that mountain would have watched over it!

        •  We lost a lot of things. (1+ / 0-)
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          The history of my people is one of frequently, repeatedly, sometimes epically, screwing up.

          However, what's that got to do with the stone vs. parchment method of making multiple copies of the Law?

          •  I'm kidding a bit. (1+ / 0-)
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            But it seems to me that copies are easily edited- yes? But the original IN STONE... now that would be hard to argue against- right?  

            Actually no... a person could have done the carving.

            Oh well, back to square one.  No proof for the existence of poor Yahweh!

            •  Wait, was that your point? (0+ / 0-)

              Oh.  Carry on, then.

              •  My original point was that we have (0+ / 0-)

                the code of Hammurabi in a museum, in stone. The difference between that stone and the Moses stones is that Hammurabi only claimed the laws were divine, but not that the stone was etched by a divine hand. Moses, on the other hand, claimed not only divine origin for the laws, but that they were actually written on the stone by Yahweh with his apparently materialized finger.

                Now why did such an incredible Jewish historical artifact get lost, while the Egyptian one didn't?  

                Are you having fun yet?  (Happy 4th!).

                •  As has already been pointed out (0+ / 0-)

                  the other difference is that many stone copies of Hammurabi's code were made, thus increasing the likelihood of at least one stone copy surviving even if the original did not.

                  The other other difference is that the Tablets, kept in the Ark as a sacred artifact, were subject to (a) mundane theft/looting/raiding and/or (b) loss as a divine punishment for Israel's misdeeds, as tradition has it.

                  This isn't really a difficult question.

                  (Happy 4th to you!  Doing anything special?)

                  •  Not doing anything more special (0+ / 0-)

                    than beer can chicken and watching the rain.

                    I guess from all this one can conclude that Yahweh was pretty much a powerless god since he couldn't even use that hand of protection magic to make sure his tablets survived. Or he was just really into the "Lord giveth the Lord taketh away" game.  Or maybe he just waited for Cecil B. DeMille to do it all for him!  What it comes down to is that people still believe in this god and that is what I find qualifies as a true mystery. One would think people could invent a god a little more competent and a whole lot more moral than that one.

                    Try Jack Miles' God, A Biography. Pretty erudite reading, but a fascinating analysis of the god of the OT as the protagonist of those stories. Now THAT would be an interesting start for one of those literature analysis conversations!

                    Happy fireworks (if you can see them where you are!).

                    •  Likewise over here. (0+ / 0-)

                      Minus the beer can chicken, although I have got to make that one of these days.

                      Your conclusions aren't anything new, of course, and you're certainly welcome to them.  But I would point out that you're assuming that God considered it important and desirable for those tablets to remain in the hands of the Israelites, which is rather a large and baseless assumption.

                      And of course people could invent a more moral god; I know people who have.  Inventing a more competent god, though, would require inventing an active malicious force of comparable power working against said god.  Because, well, the world is obviously flawed from our point of view, what with evil and suffering and death and the frankly ridiculous fact that the human respiratory system overlaps with the digestive system on the intake valves and so on, and one has to explain those flaws somehow.

                      Unless one wants to invent a more moral and more competent god and also invent a better world for that god to preside over, which I think a number of fantasy authors have done.  Sadly, though, we don't get to live there.

                      Happy fireworks to you too!  I don't know if we'll get to see any from here.

    •  God didn't have that many fingers (nt) (1+ / 0-)
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      I do not demand tolerance, I demand equal rights. --Anna Grodzka

      by VeggiElaine on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 09:42:34 AM PDT

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