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  •  And because guns are lethal and credit cards (1+ / 0-)
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    are not, there could be a 12 hour grace period for reporting a firearm lost or stolen.

    After that failure to report a lost or stolen firearm within 12 hours, also carries a criminal charge.

    If we are honest, it's a no brainer. When people are robbed, they call the police right away. But if someone loses their gun, and doesn't realize it for a couple days - then they have clearly demonstrated that they simply don't have the attention span/attention to detail/minimum competency to secure a deadly weapon.

    If a gun owner has their firearm stolen, I also consider that to be a clear demonstration that the owner is not sufficiently alert or skilled, or competent to own/carry a firearm for self defense. If they were competent the gun would not have been stolen.

    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 11:37:22 PM PDT

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    •  Does having my home broken into... (2+ / 0-)
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      KVoimakas, FrankRose

      make me irresponsible in general?

      •  Nice attempt at diversion. (2+ / 0-)
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        TheFern, DefendOurConstitution

        The issue is what level of competence and responsibility are required for gun owners to exercise their right to keep and bear arms without creating a menace for themselves or others.

        There is no 2A right to create a menace.

        Failure to properly secure a firearm creates a menace for others. We are told by some gun rights advocates to accept that untrained, impulsive, and reckless people have a 2A right to own and carry deadly weapons. If you read any of the gunFail diaries, it's clear that many people can not exercise their RKBA without creating a menace.

        But back to your faux question. Stolen property is already covered under home owner's insurance, providing that the theft is reported to the police and the home owner can document that they owned the items they are reporting  stolen.

        People who become separated from their guns, and those who don't notice it immediately or who don't report it to the police are not just irresponsible with firearms, they have demonstrated that they are not able to exercise their right to keep arms without creating a menace for themselves and others.

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 11:25:59 AM PDT

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        •  Competence and Responsibility... (1+ / 0-)
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          Does that apply to other dangerous and deadly items that I keep in my home?  What if somebody steals my chainsaw and uses it to dismember people?

          •  Again, nice iffn attempt at diversion (2+ / 0-)
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            TheFern, DefendOurConstitution

            But you do bring up a good point.

            Every kitchen is equipped with a variety of deadly weapons. Yet we don't have an epidemic of knife killings and knife accidents, especially by minors.

            Why?

            Might it have anything to do with a reckless and irresponsible gun culture? As opposed to a practical and realistic knife culture that stores most knives properly and restricts the right to carry knives in public.

            If we suppose that the average kitchen has 5 knives, and the average gun owner has 7 guns, yet only 30% of households have guns, there are about 3 times as many knives in circulation as their are guns. There is no registry. Yet we don't have an epidemic of knife violence.

            Why don't we see incidents of "law abiding responsible knife owners" showing up at the airport claiming that they just forgot they had that butcher knife in their carry on bag?

            Yet everyday supposedly responsible gun owners show up at TSA checkpoints claiming they forgot they were carrying a loaded gun around in their luggage.

            "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

            by LilithGardener on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 11:57:09 AM PDT

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