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  •  I've said it before and I'll say it again (22+ / 0-)

    TIME magazine is perfect toilet reading: lasts just long enough and sufficiently unchallenging to not tax you too much (especially when more pressing matters are sometimes, well, you know). And, if the tp runs out, instant paper!

    And George Stephanopoulos is kind of the journalistic equivalent of such. My god, the man is such a suckup to power, and not all that bright IMO.

    TIME said so! My bosses said so! My friends all said so! Sally Quinn said so! So it must be true! Now get the hell out of my Village, intruders!

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 02:27:49 PM PDT

    •  Note the author of the TIME piece (4+ / 0-)
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      Barton Gellman, the WaPo author of the Snowden leaks.  He's been on twitter with links backing up the "annihilation" quote.

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 03:14:47 PM PDT

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      •  No. (4+ / 0-)
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        He has been providing links to what Assange did so, which was not what GS claimed as the quote. The hate for and lies about Assange (and Snowden for that matter) on this site need to stop.

        I won't believe corporations are people until Texas executes one. Leo Gerard.

        by tgrshark13 on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 04:19:36 PM PDT

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        •  Huh? (2+ / 0-)
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          How do Gellman's links not confirm the quote Gellman used in his Time piece, and that GS asked Assange about?  That's not "lies", let alone "hate".

          “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

          by Catte Nappe on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 04:50:07 PM PDT

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      •  This is what he Gellman linked to, and I don't (4+ / 0-)

        see Julian Assange's name on it.  And although I'm not an authority, it doesn't seem to be what Julius Assange would write.  And it doesn't even seem to be about wikileaks releases, but about p2p technology and entertainment.  It does have the "total annihilation" phrase, and that's all the tangible connection I can find.  I bolded the "total annihilation part.

        http://cryptome.org/...

        From:
        Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:56:55 +1100
        To:

        [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g.
        Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'.
        This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawyer
        and plenty of backbone.]

        It's clear to me that as i2p, tor, anonnet and freenet evolves, other  
        p2p programs become more anon and file-sharing web-sites become more  
        popular the anon + can't get the cat in the bag part aspects of the  
        internet will become fait acompli with its general in speed and  
        sophistication.

        There will be real free speech -- that also means an inability to  
        enforce copyrights, which is great since otherwise we will find all  
        economic growth diverted into the entertainment industry as the  
        ability to falsify sense-data becomes ever more sophisticated, but  
        human eyes and brains remain the same.

        Of course, this'll only pause things slightly -- those companies will  
        move instead to the supply of mmorg like sense falsification, but the  
        regime of better governance that true free expression gives will  
        enable all manner of positive interventions. Although there is some  
        argument to be make that speech is still shackled until financial  
        transactions are free. [otherwise unmonetized free speech competes  
        with monetized censored speech]

        WL can advance the political/governance aspects of these developments  
        by several years which will have all sorts of positive cascades, not  
        the least of which is total annihilation of the current US regime and  
        any other regime
        that  holds its authority through mendacity alone.

        It seems to me that this 2007 email, which has no identification of the source, isn't even about what Gellman and Stephanopolous characterized it as being about.  

      •  Do you have a link to the tweets? (2+ / 0-)
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        I'm twillitterate.

        Please proceed, Governor.

        by USArmyParatrooper on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 07:44:27 PM PDT

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    •  Time (3+ / 0-)
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      is the last of the Dinosaurs.

      Time for it to go extinct.

      "If you tell the truth, you'll eventually be found out." Mark Twain

      by Steven D on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 03:37:35 PM PDT

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    •  The problem with that (4+ / 0-)
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      Is you might be laughing so while reading some of the crap Time publishes you will miss the target and piss on yourself.

      400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Jun 30, 2013 at 06:44:57 PM PDT

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