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  •  Evening, joe (10+ / 0-)

    and good people.

    I had to go for a walk in eye exam today because I broke my glasses beyond repair and couldn't super glue them again like I've done about 10 times already.

    I ended up getting fitted for contact lenses, which I haven't worn in years.  They are toric lenses.  I didn't wear them home because I had to get the drops and all that, so starting tomorrow morning I'll give that a try.  The new eyeglasses will take a week or so.  This should be interesting. Until then I'm flying blind, have the font up very large and am leaning over to be able to see the screen. If there are a lot of typos, I'll probably never see 'em, lol.

    And now I've got to go see what has become of my diary on the new Snowden interviews, which walt starr hijacked 4 minutes after I published the damn thing and a couple dozen people encouraged him by uprated and just continued the hijack and continued to encourage people like starr and duhban and the usual people who like to troll diaries of people they don't like.  The rest of them are undermining community moderation. People have been trying to deal with the starr hijacks for weeks now but people keep encouraging him.

    CroneWit posted a help desk complaint and a number of others have weighed in there, attesting to the way that he and others have been destroying the comment section of diaries about Snowden and the NSA Files project. If you want to weigh in, here is the link:
    http://helpdesk.dailykos.com/...

    What pisses me off is that my diary did not express any opinion.  It was straight reporting, not flame bait, nothing. I spent an hour transcribing that video, and additional time putting the diary together, collecting the two new big interviews today, adding the transcript to add value, and just presenting it to make it easier for people in the community to keep up with what's going on.  It was strictly a service to the community kind of thing, a one stop place for people to find the stuff.  I found the youtube version of the video and embedded it, the two-part der Spiegel interview, etc.  And the same people who troll and wreck diaries all the time just totally fucked the comment section. You have to scroll a hundred times to get to any reasonable on topic discussion.  Somebody said that reading it on their mobile phone was a bloody mess.  And there were people who immediately tried to moderate and get it under control but a whole bunch of other vindictive people came in and undermined that.  

    If we did something like that in a big pro Obama diary, they would scream bloody murder and stage a boycott of the site and flood the admins with complaints and write 50 diaries about it and troll rate us to oblivion. But oh, that's right, we don't f'ing do that to their diaries. It really pisses me off. Anyway I'm headed back over to see how much of a bloody mess it has become since I last looked a few hours ago, other than one peek, which still found duhban crapping up the threads bickering with whoever he can find to bicker with (the same duhban, btw, who, by the way, told me never to comment to him again some months ago but who shows up in every freaking diary that I write, except the morning diaries, and picks fights and trolls).  


    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 05:20:46 PM PDT

    •  evening joanne... (3+ / 0-)
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      joedemocrat, joanneleon, dharmafarmer

      i got to the party late, but i saw the mess.  with any luck, since the threadjacking was so blatant and has been a consistent pattern, the abuser can be ejected.  i saw some familiar typefaces in your diary who often visit my diaries and add little to the conversation.  

      i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

      by joe shikspack on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 05:41:40 PM PDT

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    •  Walt Star and duhban are jerks (3+ / 0-)
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      joe shikspack, dharmafarmer, tardis10

      I went to the help link and made a comment about Walt Star

      one thing is that arguments by the Obama & NSA supporters are getting weaker and weaker

      and they have done so much thread jacking that more people have figured out their game

      the NSA story has been incredible. The empire comes to face its bad behavior to its citizens and the whole world.

      they have handled their response badly and each day there is more stuff that comes out

      the international flap cannot be handled by beltway propaganda

      Latin America is standing up to the US for the first time since the early 1800's according to my historian friend.

      American may even learn what the rest of the world has known for years about who we are

    •  The National Security State (4+ / 0-)

      has plenty of defenders, it's all they've ever known. I love the way they go on about "our enemies," our enemies this, our enemies that, it never seems to occur to them that we wouldn't have so many enemies if we weren't such assholes.

      The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

      by Azazello on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 06:30:28 PM PDT

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      •  and the enemies are OWS, eco protesters, etc. (3+ / 0-)
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        Azazello, joe shikspack, Funkygal

        probably include efforts to unionize WalMart

        As Marcy Wheeler pointed out, our industrial policy is military so lots of jobs depend on the defense budget

        Steny Hoyer was just on C-Span talking about the 10% budget cut in discretionary spending, NIH, center for disease control, pell grants, etc., and the money going to the military

        this is really sick and our country does not realize how much it costs to support this effort

      •  evening azazello... (2+ / 0-)
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        Azazello, Funkygal

        it's our divine right to be assholes.  we're the last standing superpower, for chrissakes!

        it's pretty amazing that there would be so many people on an allegedly progressive site that are so into authoritarian rule.  

        i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

        by joe shikspack on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 07:05:09 PM PDT

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