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  •  There are no friends just assets & allies (4+ / 0-)

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 06:06:03 AM PDT

    •  see most of europe thought (3+ / 0-)
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      Don midwest, lotlizard, kharma

      they are  in the allies category guess that will change

      •  You're allies in that... (1+ / 0-)
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        gerald 1969

        we aren't actively bombing you.  You're allies in that you allow us to hide our tax free money in your banks.  You're allies in that you allow us to open corporations with no employees for the purpose of hiding from the IRS..

        If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein

        by kharma on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 09:50:31 AM PDT

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    •  Apparently even the allies are assets. (1+ / 0-)
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      kharma

      And expendable ones, it seems.

      The word "hubris" comes to mind, here.

    •  this isn't how you treat allies (3+ / 0-)
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      LaFeminista, kharma, Joieau

      I think there are assets and enemies.

      Ou sont les neigedens d'antan?

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 06:58:00 AM PDT

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      •  To be stripped. (4+ / 0-)

        "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

        by LaFeminista on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 07:00:24 AM PDT

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        •  It starts out as tax farming (1+ / 0-)
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          SouthernLiberalinMD

          on the indivual nation-state level, to finance the amassing of power and building of infrastructure. When things go international - and they've been focused almost entirely in that direction since World War 1 for all the players - it becomes plain old wealth farming. It robs the people of their productive labor, extracting the wealth of nations and putting it into the hands of accumulators - the farmers [ownership class].

          International trade can raise living standards for the masses only so long as existential needs are met for laborers. Living standards go down again when the wealth farmers have become so greedy that they've extracted the ability of the people to maintain adequate food, clothing, shelter and/or health enough stay alive and productive as well as the public ability to consume products that sustain international trade. Without wealth producers (labor, industry) or consumers (a comfortable middle class), any world system is doomed to failure.

          When it falls apart (a foregone conclusion) the producers will build something more home-grown - and will survive better than the players historically have - until that too expands in trade on the basis of population wants/needs/desires. A monetary system develops, people specialize in manipulating the monetary endeavor, and the whole parade starts all over again.

          It has always been thus.

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