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  •  The post doesn't say all southern whites (7+ / 0-)

    are racist, does it?

    The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

    by Upper West on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 08:38:16 AM PDT

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    •  The Comment I Object to is this ONE (1+ / 0-)
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      DeMint so well expresses (63+ / 0-)

      the mindset of southern neo-Confederacy.  You see, when you take away the white man's right to discrimiante against gays, blacks, latinos and women, you take away his "dignity."

      Which implies that all Southerners are neo-Confederates (whiskey tango foxtrot does that even mean, anyway? It's like the political equivalent of treknobabble. "Put some gobbledygook that's hard to pronounce and impossible to parse in here, and it'll sound great!"). Now, patently, not all hatred and bigotry is found in the south. WItness the Ohio and Wisconsin state governments.

      And patently not all Southerners are bigoted. Witness Wendy Davis if you have no other touchstone to history and defense of individual rights.

      Oh, wait. You don't think women get shafted all over the country too?
      Seventy-one cents on the dollar, and that's before we even start talking about

      Forced transvaginal ultrasounds

      More expensive healthcare for women than men, and denying funds to clinics where women could afford basic health care because "Planned Parenthood" doesn't sound like "pro life" to these idiots

      Denying Plan B

      Paying for boner bills but not birth control

      Lying to women, BECAUSE THE LAW REQUIRES IT, about abortion's "risks of breast cancer and later miscarriage" among other giant loads of horsepucky the Religious Right's old white male goons are jamming down all our throats

      Lying to young people that "abstinence is the only effective birth control" when what you know from experience is how hard that fails

      I could go on but you get the idea.

      Now before you get all sanctimonious, let me just point out that it's not just white women who are suffering. It's working-class women all over the country. Steubenville is in Ohio. That sixteen-year-old girl who got used to make and distribute child porn? How many more are out there whose attackers scrubbed their Twitpic and Facebook and MySpace accounts of evidence of similar crimes?

      The Gee Oh Pee is all about making men think their weenies are bigger.

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 10:25:51 AM PDT

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      •  neo-Confederacy (4+ / 0-)

        According to the Southern Poverty Law Center:

        The term neo-Confederacy is used to describe twentieth and twenty-first century revivals of pro-Confederate sentiment in the United States. Strongly nativist and advocating measures to end immigration, neo-Confederacy claims to pursue Christianity and heritage and other supposedly fundamental values that modern Americans are seen to have abandoned.

        Neo-Confederacy also incorporates advocacy of traditional gender roles, is hostile towards democracy, strongly opposes homosexuality, and exhibits an understanding of race that favors segregation and suggests white supremacy. In many cases, neo-Confederates are openly secessionist.


        I can imagine various objections to that term, but I don't think the comment wa gobbledygook. And I didn't think the phrase "southern neo-Confederacy" implied that all Southerns are neo-Confederates, any more than "white racism" implies that all whites are racists -- although either phrase could be construed in that way.

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        by HudsonValleyMark on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 12:55:16 PM PDT

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      •  Context, context, context (1+ / 0-)
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        Both De Mint and Reed are actually from former Confederate states, SC and VA, the homes of nullification and secession (SC), and Massive Resistance to school desegregation (VA), where the Lost Cause, Confederate battle flags, voter suppression, Creationism, God, Guns, and Gays, and the rest of the apparatus of resistance to the War of Northern Aggression and Tyranny!! are still strong.

        It is pointless to complain when someone points out the activities of Unreconstructed Rebels in our politics, particularly given the presence of Alabama Sen. Jefferson [Davis] [Pierre August Toutant] Beauregard Sessions III. Even if Pennsylvania can correctly be described as Philadelphia and Pittsburg, with Alabama in the middle. Even if Indiana Gov. Mike Pence can correctly be described as the darling of the Rednecks up from Kentucky. (And yes, I do know that Kentucky stayed in the Union. It was a near thing.)

        And yes, we should recognize the existence of Progressives in the South, as in To Kill a Mockingbird and Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistlestop Cafe. I have done so, in Diaries such as

        The Young South is Ours

        Neil Gaiman on Anti-South Prejudice

        and more. You should Diary your own experiences within the movement more. We hear about Wendy Davis and Battleground Texas, about Moral Mondays in North Carolina, and about brave battles to keep abortion clinics open in Mississippi and Alabama and so forth, but we need to hear how to turn the rest of the old Confderacy Blue from those doing the work. Not complaints about legitimate comments.

        Don't tell us you're better than that. Show us.

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 04:07:41 PM PDT

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