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  •  I don't care which administration it is (5+ / 0-)

    Illegal activities are still wrong, and still criminal actions.  Persons committing illegal activities ought to be held liable for those illegal activities..., and be sent to jail for such activities.

    Period.  No quibbling.  No excuses.

    Dumbya & Dickie & their cohorts ought to still be held liable for their lies and war crimes and authorizing of torture and imprisoning people illegally and unconstitutionally..., just as Obama and his cohorts ought to be held liable for his lies and war crimes (and authorizing drone bombings qualifies as a war crime) and continuing the illegal activities of the Bushista regime.

    Really, I don't give a flying fig what the political party is.  A lie is still a lie and a war crime is still a war crime.  As a Democrat, I'm utterly horrified and embarrassed beyond measure that Obama continued so many Bushista policies and instituted some of his own illegal activities about which it seems he has lied.  I hold Democrats to higher standards; I know that's unfair, but I expect better things of the political party that's supposed to be comprised of "the good guys" who do what's best for all persons in this nation.

    I want to see some trials and some sentences for life in prison for the rest of certain lying war criminals' lives.  They should not be walking around free or sleeping snugly in their little beds at night while visions of sugar plum fairies dance in their heads....

    While they're at it the US CONGRESS NEEDS TO RESTORE ALL OF OUR RIGHTS IN FULL by repealing all of the illegal and unconstitutional laws that have been put in place since 2000.  There can be no compromise on that demand.  Obviously, we have more to fear from the criminals in charge of our own government than we do from the common criminals they try to scare us with by elevating them to the status of a super-villainous "ter'rist."

    Period.  #1 priority:  Restore ALL of our rights to us!!!  That should have been done the first week Obama was in power in 2009....

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 04:24:19 PM PDT

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    •  #1 priority should have been: (1+ / 0-)
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      Arrest Cheney, bush, et al. Convene war crimes trial.

      How many divisions does OWS have?

      by Diebold Hacker on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 05:49:27 PM PDT

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      •  True. I was advocating that... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... clear back in '06, '07, '08, and I also advocated impeachment..., and was ignored, of course.

        At this stage of the game, Obama & his DoJ will never do the sensible thing and put those lying war criminals on trial.  It would now spill over to himself and his regime full of old Bushista appointees and retained personnel who are following the same illegal and unconstitutional policies as the Bushistas, so to condemn his predecessors also condemns himself.

        Ergo, I'll take what I can get and continue to advocate for all the rights of We The People to be returned to us by repealing all the illegal and unconstitutional "temporary" legislation that took away our rights in the first place.  Why these pieces of shite legislation continue to be extended is beyond my ability to comprehend ... unless ... the "beings" [big banks, Casino Wall Street, corporate masters] behind the public face of our government who are following the "secret interpretations of secret laws and secret legal interpretations of existing laws" really are the ones pulling everyone's puppet strings and they intended to get us all used to not having our right by continuing to extend the expiration dates..., and then make the changes permanent and change the constitution to suit their whims and finally set up an official fascist dictatorship.

        I'm old, so I am no longer sure our rights will be returned to us before I die (our constitutional rights have been gone over a decade already, and I consider that a crime in and of itself), but an old woman can dream for a return to normalcy with an official return to constitutional and legal norms with giving us back all of our rights and our habeas corpus rights..., can't she?

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 06:57:25 PM PDT

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      •  Frankly, I would have settled for a truth (0+ / 0-)

        and reconciliation commission with a promise of no jail time for Bush, Rummy, Yoo, Ashcroft, and Cheney.  At least, with decent restitution for their victims, and all of them getting felony records.

        Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

        by JesseCW on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 12:37:12 AM PDT

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