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  •  It's a little bit confusing (14+ / 0-)

    why we persist in honoring Jefferson and Jackson at state party functions and not Roosevelt-Kennedy.

    As awful as Reagan was -- remember when he sold arms to the Ayatollah and used it to fund Central American death squads? neither did he! -- his views on immigration and arms reduction would run him out of the party.  

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 01:39:45 PM PDT

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    •  not to mention his views on (5+ / 0-)

      comparative tax rates and his having campaigned against the Briggs initiative.

      The current repugs would certainly try to skewer T.R. for being anti-business,  and Lincoln for being anti-private property and anti-states' rights.

      "Labor was the first price, the original purchase - money that was paid for all things" -- Adam Smith

      by HugoDog on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 02:16:01 PM PDT

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    •  Well (1+ / 0-)
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      Jefferson's Democratic Republican Party was essentially the modern Democratic precursor, and he was the first President from his party. And Jackson was involved in the split that created the Democrats and spun off the Whigs.

      Similarly Republicans celebrate Lincoln because he was their first party President.

      The problem with 20th Century figures is that a lot of them have been dead for a long time, but not quite long enough to be mythologized. A lot of progressives do celebrate FDR, but very few were alive at the time. Kennedy will have been dead for 50 years this November.

      Reagan presided within living memory of most of his biggest fans. For younger Democrats, we really only have Carter and Clinton within the past few decades.

      •  I possess that information (1+ / 0-)
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        Many of Jackson's views we'd find abhorrent.  Less true of Roosevelt.  Most of Lincoln's views, the Rs find abhorrent, or they would if they knew what they were.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 07:47:58 PM PDT

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      •  I'll take politically hapless but honest Carter (0+ / 0-)

        over deceitful, destructive Reagan any day.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 07:56:40 PM PDT

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