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View Diary: I Doubt the NSA Knows What Data It Has, Where It Came from, Who Has Accessed It and If It Was Stolen (158 comments)

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  •  NSA has more money than Veterans' Affairs does. (10+ / 0-)

    They have more money that most of all of the agencies combined.  I don't think the claim that they can store all of that data is farfetched at all.  Google stores a tremendous amount of data - we have the technology to do so and for the moment we have the real estate upon which to build the facilities for the servers and data storage systems.

    •  Okay, but do you think the government would be (0+ / 0-)

      as good as Google at storing and being able to use the info?

      I'm just saying I think it's a big mistake to take all that data and store it. It costs more. It takes more time. You have to store it. You have to search so much more.

      It seems like it would make a search in the ocean instead of a search in a pond. Figure out who you need to follow. Get their info. That gives you more suspects. Get their data. Build the pattern that way.

      Confession time: When I'm not ranting about politics, I write romance novels

      by teresahill on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 04:19:52 PM PDT

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      •  I think that the concept of capturing all (6+ / 0-)

        bits of data is freaking stupid and arguably distracting.

        The US Government had complete dossiers on 18 of the 19 September 11, 2001 hijackers without this spying apparatus being in place.  They had numerous opportunities to stop them - not the least of which was preventing them from being allowed on any transport into the United States, but they let them in.

        But what I am saying is that the technology is there to collect and store it.  There are no obstacles and I honestly do not believe that the government are going to be any more or less successful at managing it than the private sector has been.  Please keep in mind that corporations' data systems are hacked on a pretty regular basis.  That is the nature of the beast.  It is way more difficult to break into a building and comb through filing cabinets than it is to hack a computer system.

        In fact, I think that the risk of data being stolen from the government may well start to take center stage as the issue that inspires both private citizens and business entities to call for an end to the practice of data mining and collecting tomes of data by the US Government - it also seems like the likely scenario under which elected officials would begin to shy away from their support of the practice.  

        A Presidential candidate who wants to dig into Pfizer's internal communications with the security apparatus might find him or herself without that all important campaign money if that company or its competitors started to think that the government was risking their trade secrets - or worse giving Chinese or Taiwanese competitors free access.

        Aside from the Constitutional and important principles of innocent until proven guilty that this spying apparatus threatens, they have the potential to inadvertently destroy corporate secrecy that is stock and trade in competing nationally and internationally.

        The question that has troubled me all along about the government data collection has been why the government hasn't simply mandated that the companies keep their data archived for "x" number of years in case they need it.  That would keep the government harmless of accidentally losing the data; and it would silo the data so that it would not be "one stop shopping" for data hackers.  That is crazy, imo.

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