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  •  Bring down the cost of college, make non-college (5+ / 0-)

    training good, available, and affordable.

    College has become a bad deal for many students as it is -- offering a diluted product at great cost.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 03:22:19 PM PDT

      •  It kind of is, isn't it? (2+ / 0-)
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        TheFatLadySings, Whatithink

        Maybe we need to examine junior colleges -- call them something else, even.

        The idea of a "junior college" seems to be something inferior to "real" college.  In fact, it may be superior for many people and many things.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 03:47:41 PM PDT

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      •  Even junior (community) college (4+ / 0-)
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        jck, Aquarius40, snacksandpop, Dodgerdog1

        is suffering from pressures of funding cuts, tuition increases, and being a "diluted product." Our local community college has seen a staggering increase in non-tenure, especially way underpaid adjunct (part-time) faculty. It's also seen a spate of lavish new buildings,  which earned the recently retired president extravagant kudos from the local corporate community, which was probably secretly celebrating at how wages were brought down and the union was weakened.

        Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

        by anastasia p on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 03:50:46 PM PDT

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      •  Well, there's a new development at SF Jr. College (3+ / 0-)

        which has been refused accreditation this next year.

        There are some interesting questions arising about the integrity and conflicts of interest present for the accrediting body.  

        It is starting to look like the accreditors may be doing some 'dirty work' for the for profit institutions that compete with the public Jr. college.  

        Put the Jr. College out of business in the culinary, medical, dental, and other occupational fields, and you force people over to the overpriced for profit tech training sectors.  

        Not good.

        •  Re (0+ / 0-)
          California Community Colleges Chancellor Brice Harris said the Accrediting Commission for Community and Junior Colleges notified City College officials of its verdict in a letter. The commission said the public college, which enrolls 85,000 full- and part-time students on nine campuses and two centers, had failed to fix problems with financial management, instructional standards, library services and other areas after it was put on a probationary "show-cause" list last year.
          Do you want to go to this school? What is a degree from such an institution worth?

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 07:05:12 PM PDT

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          •  The actual course work and teachers (0+ / 0-)

            and quality of training is still actually very good.  Note that all the items noted were at the administrative level.

            Many many of the problems found last year were corrected over this past year.

            Integrity of the board members and their interests in for-profit schools is being questioned.  

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