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  •  Whos fault is that? His. (2+ / 0-)
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    SoCalSal, here4tehbeer

    Maybe blasting music and refusing to turn it down while the cops are investigating an armend robbery was a bad idea?

    I notice lots of people were filming, none of them were bing arrested.

    •  This was their reasoning: (3+ / 0-)
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      Steven D, libdevil, pitbullgirl65
      Hawthorne police responded to an armed robbery on 137th Street, where a standoff ensued. Investigators said Rosby was interfering by blaring music from his car and walking within close proximity of armed officers
      In the video I can't hear any music and he was walking behind the police cars and quite a distance from the officers.

      Had it been me they would have simply asked me to turn the music down. Of course I am white so I get the benefit of the doubt in cases like this.

      Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

      by Mike S on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 09:59:46 AM PDT

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      •  Im the last one to rush defense of cops (3+ / 0-)
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        here4tehbeer, FischFry, Aquarius40

        I've had my own problems with them and two have lied in court in cases Ive been involved in. So no automatic sympathy for them from me.

        But, the muisc was very audible in the video when I watched it, and neighbors said he refused to turn it down when asked. And there were lots of other people visibly filming, none of whom the cops are bothering with.

        As for the dog, it looked like a threat to me, sorry dog lovers.

      •  Maybe you wouldn't have been belligerent? (0+ / 0-)

        According to this article in the daily breeze:

        "I do apologize if I didn't immediately comply. The music may have been a little loud but I was complying," Rosby said. "I said, 'Sir, I want to make sure nobody's civil rights were being violated.' "

        A neighbor, who asked not to be identified, said the officers asked him to turn the music down, but he refused. Rosby, she said, responded, "It's my (expletive) radio!"

        He was complying? The video is 3:34 minutes long, showing Rosby walking to and fro across the street. The cops' request to turn off the music must have occurred before the video began.

        “We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children” ― Chief Seattle

        by SoCalSal on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 10:30:21 AM PDT

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    •  So your point is... (6+ / 0-)

      he was being kind of jerk so he should be arrested for it?

      It is not illegal to be a jerk.

      Or to be passive agressive.

      But I think it is transparent that the police were complaining about the music when what really bothered them was the filming.

      Police should not be scared of cameras.

      •  They didnt bother with all the other filmers. (2+ / 0-)
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        SoCalSal, pitbullgirl65

        Why did they pick him out?

      •  But being a passive aggressive jerk (0+ / 0-)

        to a cop can very easily be framed as something potentially illegal, so it's not a smart thing to do.  I know I have an adult sister who makes a hobby out of it; you should see her arrest sheet. She is, in her own mind, a constant victim of police harassment, but that's because she never actually sees her own actions as part of the dynamic.

        And given the long and well-documented history of black men being much more susceptible to "creative charging" on the parts of police, well, I'd imagine this wasn't a particularly smart move.  That in no way justifies the overreaction of the police officer, or the fact that because of this guy's less than smart choices, the officer will know have extended avenues to justify his overreaction and will probably not be held accountable.

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 11:27:33 AM PDT

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