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    •  And that is just how it unfolded. (12+ / 0-)

      I remember that quote was going around during the lead-up to the invasion.

      Clearly, that was the playbook and clearly everyone in the media was on board.

      In most sports, if you know what the play is going to be, it makes the job of defense a whole lot easier.

      But that's not true in today's media torrent. Sometimes the truth is bobbing around in a sea of distractions; others a needle hiding in a stack of needles.

      Because you can reach out and touch it doesn't mean you can span the chasm of the person next to you.

      2002-2003 was the most powerful moment for propaganda since, I don't even know when, maybe ever. Even Wilson's pitch to enter WWI doesn't come close because that was a real war, whereas with Iraq, we started it.

      I still am shocked it was pulled off.

      collards, meat, butter, sourdough, eggs, cheese, raw milk

      by Tirge Caps on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 11:54:58 AM PDT

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      •  I think it is why I was so disappointed in HRC (4+ / 0-)
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        2002-2003 was a time that demanded profiles in courage.  It was a character exposing time for sure.  It isn't always what you do, but what you fail to do.   Democrats failed to stop Bush, failed to stop the war, failed to stop the propaganda, failed to stop the assault on civil liberties.  

        •  Compromising w/ crazy people makes one half sane (4+ / 0-)

          The Turd Way is not a philosophy--it's a rationalization for timidity and cowardice.  Every time Dems try to move to R to find "common ground" w/ GOP, GOP moves further to the R.  It's an approach that it doomed to failure for anyone who's concerned about anything other than their own short-term political prospects.

          Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

          by RFK Lives on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 02:00:13 PM PDT

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      •  In retrospect, I think Bush may have done it with (1+ / 0-)
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        good intentions -- as naive as those might have been.

        I can only imagine what kind of horrendous threats the President must face with the specter of dirty bombs and nukes.

        BUT at the end of the day when the abuses possible for the "cure" start to ruin our society to the extent that we are on par or even worse then our enemies who practice abuse of power an oppression, then we need to re-evluate.

        Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

        by Einsteinia on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 10:13:39 PM PDT

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