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  •  Why do you think Morsi will end up in prison? (4+ / 0-)
    •  He does not control the army, and he has just (8+ / 0-)

      defied the army's ultimatum.  I think the army is smart enough not to just shoot him.  So I suspect they'll arrest him and put him in prison, as happened to Mubarak.

      And remember, Mubarak had exercised control over the army for many years.  That has never been true for Morsi.

      The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.-Bertrand Russell

      by Timaeus on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 10:55:57 AM PDT

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      •  Ah, got ya. Guess Morsi has til tomorrow to step (4+ / 0-)

        down, though.

      •  All the more reason to suspect that the Army (2+ / 0-)
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        will just appoint another Mubarak and hold sham elections.

        The Egyptian Army isn't exactly famous for any commitment to democracy.

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        by corvo on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 11:02:55 AM PDT

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        •  Hard to tell. Predictions are inherently (4+ / 0-)

          uncertain and the people of Egypt may play a role.   The people in the street protesting welcome the help of the military.  Now they might regret that in the future, or not, but now they welcome the help.  

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          by TomP on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 11:09:11 AM PDT

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        •  There seems to be general belief in Egypt that the (4+ / 0-)
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          military really has no interest in ruling -- even among those who do not want to see a military dominated interim government.

          Don't know if this is correct, but I've been reading as much as I can for the last 2 days, and I keep seeing this perspective.

          It seems to me that what the military really wants is 1) to retain their economic holdings, which are great, including real estate, etc....  and 2) to keep getting money from the US.

          •  Yes, I think that's true. I'm working on an (0+ / 0-)

            asylum case for an Egyptian and his family right now, so I'm reading a lot about this.  It's a unique situation.  No other country is much like Egypt.  The military has the power, but they really don't want to try to rule.  They failed very recently when they tried to do so after Mubarak was toppled.  Everybody agrees with that.

            They woke up this time when at least FOURTEEN MILLION PEOPLE protested on Sunday (that's the army's estimate; other estimates were lower or even some much higher).  That's roughly equivalent to FIFTY MILLION AMERICANS going to the streets to protest an unjust government!!!!!

            The main point is that Egypt is an essentially secular society (although there is an incredible amount of animosity towards Coptic Christians and other minorities).  In general, the people and the army will not accept rule by the Muslim Brotherhood under Morsi.

            So Morsi is going to go, very soon, maybe tomorrow, and there will be new elections.

            The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.-Bertrand Russell

            by Timaeus on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 06:22:34 PM PDT

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      •  strange control (1+ / 0-)
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        not absolute control.  They divided the spoils control.  

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        by anna shane on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 11:14:17 AM PDT

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