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  •  Fine. Let's see what the courts say. (1+ / 0-)
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    Oh, wait! It's impossible for us to know how the courts have interpreted this law — and therefore what the law actually says — because the court's rulings are secret.

    It's also impossible to appeal the FISA court's secret decisions, leaving the law entirely under the interpretation of people personally appointed by Roberts.

    Don't you find that at least a bit disturbing? The fact that we are now governed by secret laws?

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    by Code Monkey on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 12:55:55 PM PDT

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    •  secret from you (2+ / 0-)
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      Yes, the rulings are secret...but does "oversight" require that YOU personally are involved?  Many things happen that are kept secret and oversight can still take place.

      The sequester is the new Republican immigration reform plan. Make things so bad here in the US that no one will want to live here.

      by Mote Dai on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 01:15:45 PM PDT

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      •  LAWS SHOULD NOT BE SECRET. (0+ / 0-)

        Of course some things should be secret. What the law says is not one of them.

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        by Code Monkey on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 05:34:07 PM PDT

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        •  And that is your opinion (0+ / 0-)

          Obviously, if it deals with threats, risks, or vulnerabilities, then there is a need for secrecy.  No?  A government must put all everything in public for it to function? Secret doesn't mean NO ONE knows...it means it is limited knowledge.

          It is clear now that knowledge of these programs did exist and some, but not all, Congresspeople were briefed on them.  You want to know, then get yourself elected.

          The sequester is the new Republican immigration reform plan. Make things so bad here in the US that no one will want to live here.

          by Mote Dai on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 07:15:49 PM PDT

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