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  •  indeed, revealing... (3+ / 0-)
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    Quicklund, raptavio, gramofsam1

    that secrets are being collected and revealing the secrets themselves are two very different things.
    He did the former with his first disclosure. Now that his laptops have been to China and Russia, as Jonathan Capehart pointed out, it's ludicrous to assume the latter hasn't now occurred.

    "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

    by JackND on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 06:41:50 PM PDT

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    •  It's ludicrous to assume. Unless... (0+ / 0-) have an agenda.

      •  Every security agency on Earth... (2+ / 0-)
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        assumes these laptops have been compromised. That is what happens when classified information gets out. It is all assumed to be communicated to those it was not intended to reach.

        I will wager a frosty cold Coke that every national security chief is telling that nation's leadership to assume the Chinese and Russians have this information.

        •  You are assuming that he is travelling with... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...the information that matters.

          If I was him, and I didn't know where I'd land, I wouldn't.

          I would carry laptops with encrypted junk on them. Let intelligence agencies tear their hair out trying to break the encryption, and then discover that all that's there are a bunch of copies of "Enemy of The State".

          If he planned far enough ahead to have encrypted "insurance policy" files stashed elsewhere, that others will open and release upon his capture, disappearance, or death, why wouldn't he plan for the fact that he might land somewhere and some dude named VLADIMIR might politely ask for his computers, for just a couple of minutes, please, comrade...

          The crown jewels are probably encrypted on some GoDaddy server somewhere, and on a Google server, and on...

          Speculation such as yours, and what I just did, might be fun, but it's all meaningless. We're just going to have to sit back and watch this play out.

          •  No (0+ / 0-)

            I am assuming he left with four laptops as news reports have said. They are not in the control of US security orgs. That is the key factor. They are out loose somewhere. Procedure is therefore to assume the information has been seen by unauthorized eyes.

            Speculation such as mine? You've constructed a scenario of speculation built upon speculation built upon speculation. Security agencies will not be as blassé.

            •  If you read my comment, I said Speculation... (1+ / 0-)
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              ...such as OURS.

              You were speculating. I did too. All useless, but fun.

              However, if such speculation distracts us from the facts we do know, that Mega-1984 is upon us, then such speculation is destructive.

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