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  •  How far will you reach? (15+ / 0-)

    Quicklund, your defense of all this has truly reached the point of the absurd. I have an honest question for you please:

    What would it take, seriously, for you to no longer support the President's actions in this regard? In your view, are there any limits, diplomatic or otherwise, on what the Administration can do to capture Snowden?

    Seriously, I am interested to know your line in the sand.



    May the Conservative Supremes share Paula Deen's heart-stopping culinary tastes as much as they share her cultural ones.

    by pajoly on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 08:09:05 AM PDT

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    •  Well I am sure nuking Moscow is out of the (2+ / 0-)
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      question.  Short of that (using nukes), who knows?

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 08:57:38 AM PDT

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    •  Except that Quicklund is right. (5+ / 0-)

      Permission for such flights is granted under the Chicago Convention on International Civil Aviation, and countries do have the right under the convention to deny access to state flights to their airspace.  And it's not even clear yet that access was actually denied (Bolivia says it was, France and Spain say it wasn't).

      I know reality can be tough sometimes, but that doesn't mean it's not reality.  Quicklund was right.  A president cannot just fly a diplomatic plane over any country they choose.  So quit attacking reality.

      •  But do you not understand? (2+ / 0-)

        Because I have some measure amount of layman understanding of diplomatic immunity, that means my defense of PBO has reached the level of the absurd.

        But what is not absurd to this person?

        The US will shoot down the Bolivian plane.

        The POTUS can pick up the phone and directly order French air controllers and military warplanes around.

        PBO would go to war with France had France not obeyed him.

        Or at least, I have never read that poster refute any of the truly ludicrous, inane, nonsense drivel put forth in these diaries.

        But damn  me, I did accurately write that diplomatic immunity does not give the Distingushed Visitor unlimited travel rights.

        Another day in Kossacktown.

      •  Prior to departure ... once it's filed and acked (0+ / 0-)

        that all any state has the right to disallow an overflight.  Once a flight is in the air the flight plan MUST be allowed to continue.   The deviation of Evo's flight was a crime.

    •  What, exactly, am I "defending" (1+ / 0-)
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      First time on the internet you've run into somene not in lockstep with you on every thought? You seem surprised.

      Also, please seach my comments and blockquote one or two of my comments which include references to POTUS Obama and the POTRO Bolivia.

      Take your time. You'll need it. There isn't a single one.

      So sorry, I cannot address your imaginings.

      •  Not at all (7+ / 0-)

        But, in my diary re the FBI/OWS threat, you took an extraordinary amount of interest to the point where you comprised some 20% of over 500 comments. I found that level of, dare I say, devotion to counter opinion in one thread remarkable (and a bit perplexing why you took such an extreme interest over two days).

        Whatever that was, it marked you in my opinion as highly sensitive against government criticism. This diary, also being critical of authority, now sees you back in and once again covering for authority. So, I was actually curious what it would take for YOU to be critical of those to whom you dedicate significant energy to defend.

        May the Conservative Supremes share Paula Deen's heart-stopping culinary tastes as much as they share her cultural ones.

        by pajoly on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 11:01:02 AM PDT

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        •  You have to live with Quicklund, (0+ / 0-)

          and a few other people around here.  We're getting too touchy lately.  For whatever reason, he believes whatever crap he's saying.

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