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  •  If taken by surprise it would be fairly easy (0+ / 0-)

    If you can brace yourself then the extra weight may be an advantage, but if taken by surprise it's a whole new ballgame.

    •  It's hard to be ... (1+ / 0-)
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      'taken by surprise' when you are actively following and watching someone.

      Nothing changes without public pressure: public pressure doesn't happen without dissemination of knowledge and 'true' facts. Bit me FOX.

      by emsprater on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 09:24:15 AM PDT

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      •  Not really (0+ / 0-)

        You can get sucker punched by someone you are talking to.  If you're not properly prepared to receive a blow then you could easily get knocked off your feet, especially if you're on a slippery surface.

        We also do not know how strong Trayvon was.  Weight can give us some idea of strength, but that can very greatly.

        •  Not buying what you are selling. Sorry. (1+ / 0-)
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          Nothing changes without public pressure: public pressure doesn't happen without dissemination of knowledge and 'true' facts. Bit me FOX.

          by emsprater on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 09:34:25 AM PDT

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          •  Not buying what I'm selling? (0+ / 0-)

            I'm just pointing out that you can indeed get knocked down by a smaller person who sucker punches you.  You don't believe that?

            Heck, you can even get knocked off your feet if it wasn't a surprise punch, if you're unlucky or caught in a bad position/balance, or simply can't take a punch very well.  None of what I am saying is particularly controversial.  It also doesn't really say what happened in this incident, except to say that Zimmerman's version of that part of the event is not impossible.

            •  Hasn't it been reported .. (1+ / 0-)
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              that Zimmerman has MMA training to some degree?  How does such a person get 'surprised', especially when they are actively following and watching the person supposedly doing the 'surprising'?

              Nothing changes without public pressure: public pressure doesn't happen without dissemination of knowledge and 'true' facts. Bit me FOX.

              by emsprater on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 09:51:26 AM PDT

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              •  Well, he could be incompetent/inexperienced (0+ / 0-)

                It doesn't sound like Zimmerman has been in many actual fights, or has the proper training and knowledge to follow a suspect.  What he did was pretty foolish (what if Trayvon had a gun?) and so I would not rule out Zimmerman generally being pretty incompetent.

                My guess is that they were in a verbal argument and one of the two started the fight, at which point Trayvon knocked Zimmerman down and got on top.  Zimmerman's story about being rushed from out of the darkness would be a lie to make himself seem more innocent.  But that's just a guess, and I know of no evidence that makes the sucker punch scenario impossible.

              •  It really sounds (0+ / 0-)

                like he is an MMA 'wannabe' just as he wanted to be law enforcement and was proven to be physically, intellectually and emotionally unsuited for that.

                There are always guys who hang around the gym.

                I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

                by trumpeter on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 10:10:03 AM PDT

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              •  Boxers and MMA (0+ / 0-)

                Professionals get knocked out everyday in the ring.  Your point that a skilled fighter can't get caught and surprised by a strike is absurd.

                •  Surprised ... (1+ / 0-)
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                  by a strike from a teenager who he is actively following and watching.

                  I don't buy it.

                  Nothing changes without public pressure: public pressure doesn't happen without dissemination of knowledge and 'true' facts. Bit me FOX.

                  by emsprater on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 02:05:49 PM PDT

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    •  So he jumped out of the bushes and said what's (0+ / 0-)

      Your problem, homey? Almost nothing GZ has said is truthful.

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