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  •  Not sure how well that (3+ / 0-)
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    Wee Mama, FiredUpInCA, jaywillie

    story is going to hold up...

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/...

    As you may have heard by now, Bolivian president Evo Morales supposedly had a tough time flying from home from Moscow last night after France, Portugal, Italy, and Spain refused to allow his plane to enter their airspace and Austria forced his plane to land and searched it. Except: Much of that reporting comes from a single source, the Bolivian government, and some of it has been contradicted.

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    by AnnetteK on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 02:55:17 PM PDT

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    •  Facts not all in yet. (2+ / 0-)
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      Truth likely between or outside the versions being told by the various governments.

      Kirchner of Argentina and Correa of Ecuador were tweeting with Morales during the incident.

      Again, emergency summit of Unasur? Nontrivial. Complaint to UN? Not easy to ignore.  We shall see.

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      by tom 47 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 03:16:28 PM PDT

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      •  The plane's flight path is extremely revealing (0+ / 0-)

        Normal course until well into western Austria and about to cross into Italian airspace - then a SHARP 180 and flight in the direction it had been coming FROM.

        That says there was some MAJOR refusal - either of permission to enter air space, or permission to land for refueling, or possibly both.

        The Mass Media has added its own share of garbling and disinformation with allegations of a "stop for refueling" in "Spanish territory" - which DID NOT HAPPEN YESTERDAY, as the plane never got anywhere near Spanish territory.

        AFTER being cleared to leave Vienna and fly over Spanish and Portuguese territory TODAY - AFTER it was made clear that there were no unauthorized passengers on board - the plane refueled at Gran Canaria (in the Canary Islands, which is Spanish territory) and continued on to Bolivia. I have yet to hear if it landed safely - but since I haven't heard otherwise....

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        Not your body,
        Then it's
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        by TheOtherMaven on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 03:42:25 PM PDT

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