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  •  Trust me (2+ / 0-)
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    Quicklund, sviscusi

    You really have not the least idea who I align with.  Check my history rather than mind reading...it's more effective.

    "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

    by Empty Vessel on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 05:52:24 PM PDT

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    •  Then, I ask you to consider that (3+ / 0-)
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      lunachickie, DeadHead, JesseCW

      this particular diary served no good purpose. While some may have gotten a chuckle, it (inadvertently?) supports the false meme that both sides are obsessed with Snowden the man, to the exclusion of a deep discussion of the issues he's raised.

      DECLARATION: As a self-acknowledged internet tough guy, I WILL personally attack those who defend the indefensible. If you espouse simplistic, authoritarian views, you ARE a simplistic authoritarian. Fuck your fee-fees.

      by WisePiper on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 06:00:19 PM PDT

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      •  Both sides are obsessed with Snowden (2+ / 0-)
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        Quicklund, alain2112

        You may not be, and good for you...but have you actually been reading the diaries lately?

        "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

        by Empty Vessel on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 06:03:41 PM PDT

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        •  I work on a contract basis, (3+ / 0-)
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          lunachickie, DeadHead, JesseCW

          and new assignments have been nonexistent for the past three weeks. (Yay! WisePiper vaycay!) So, yes, I've read virtually every diary posted on the subject since the first Guardian/Greenwald reports.

          I stand by my parent comment observations. From the beginning there has been a tremendous and unseemly focus on and demonization of Snowden the man, in a transparent effort to deflect the more important conversation.

          Given that, there certainly and undeniably has been pushback against the ignorant and hyperbolic accusations of "coward" and "traitor" and "just in it for himself" (WTseriousF!), but the false equivalence has been, and clearly continues to be, that both sides WANT this conversation to be about Snowden.

          For you to not see, or refuse to acknowledge, that A preceded B, is disingenuous at best.

          You sincerely want everyone to stop talking about Snowden? How about joining the effort to inform your fellow citizens that the NSA has given hundreds of profit motivated private companies and their tens of thousands of employees Top Secret access to all of your digital data, with no practical oversight nor safeguards against these individuals divulging this data to whomever may make use of it.

          DECLARATION: As a self-acknowledged internet tough guy, I WILL personally attack those who defend the indefensible. If you espouse simplistic, authoritarian views, you ARE a simplistic authoritarian. Fuck your fee-fees.

          by WisePiper on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 06:29:31 PM PDT

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        •  Nobody I know is obsessed with Snowden (4+ / 0-)

          in the real world. No one is thinking about him at ALL. That's why, given that we are in overdrive political activity out here on the ground, this place feels like a hermetic little world obsessed with something no one else cares about.

          Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

          by anastasia p on Wed Jul 03, 2013 at 07:21:17 PM PDT

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      •  Except it is true (4+ / 0-)
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        Empty Vessel, 88kathy, alain2112, sviscusi

        Both the Snowden-Hero and the Snowden-Fink "sides" have penned Snowden diaries, have gone into Snowden diaries to comment profusely, recced up Snowden diaries, and altogether have done The snowden Thing.

        Get real. No one buys that only-one-side does it schtick.

        •  There you go (1+ / 0-)
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          JesseCW

          "No one buys that only-one-side schtick"

          Do you speak for me? Or are you using the same broad brush bullshit I've seen you point out when others do it?




          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
          ~ Jerry Garcia

          by DeadHead on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 01:13:44 AM PDT

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