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  •  Feudal society grew out of the fallen (3+ / 0-)
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    Roman society. The "Pax Romana" is also briefly discussed in Crossan's book as a peace within the Roman borders for the elite classes primarily but also the lower classes. At the edges of Roman territory it was fairly constant war... hmmm... that sounds kinda familiar too. The big difference between Rome and feudal times was the breakdown of that imperial order and the growth in power of all the local lords and their "protection racket." The Roman Emperors terrorized the elite under them if they ever got too big for their britches.

    Life is busy these days. Partly because of the job situationd described above. Working on the house in case I have to sell in a hurry. My job appears safe... for now... but that for now may be only a couple years. Hard to say and while I'm not getting any younger I'm not quite ready for retirement yet either so I need to be prepared for changes. Some of colleagues are not so lucky as to have time to prepare. Their lives are being uprooted now.

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 07:45:49 AM PDT

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    •  Serfdom was started in the last century of the (5+ / 0-)

      Roman empire when peasants were legally bound to the land in an effort to boost agricultural productivity. The old system of importing goods from the periphery such as
      Egypt, North Africa and Gaul was reduced by barbarian
      invasions. At the same time continuous war, both civil
      and barbarian, impoverished society. The system of imperial succession failed to provide continuity in the face of a military tradition of mutiny. Finally a fundamentally anti-Roman Christianity undermined traditional Roman values such as ancestor worship and reinforced an Oriental cultural viewpoint.

      'Instead of inquiring why the Roman empire was destroyed we should rather be surprised that it lasted so long.-Edward Gibbon'

    •  I'm glad to hear (3+ / 0-)
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      that your absence is due to more-or-less positive factors, rather than illness or burnout. We were talking in San Jose about how many of the good voices within the state have fallen silent, for a variety of reasons. Yours was one of those mentioned.

      I hope to find some time to write about downstate issues this year, with our municipal elections coming up. But I've often has those intentions and no time to act on them, so I understand.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 09:59:38 AM PDT

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      •  There is a certain amount of burn-out as well (1+ / 0-)
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        There is only so much time and energy to go around and personal life has to take precedence every once in awhile. There are many things I'd like to dive into politically but the idea of the amount of time and energy it would take keeps me from jumping in. I think, however, that things should settle down in the next year or so as my life completes a shift into a new phase and that will hopefully leave me in a place to pick a political front to get involved in and actually have the time and energy to be effective in it. Here's hoping!

        "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

        by Andrew C White on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 05:13:09 PM PDT

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