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  •  For the record ... (6+ / 0-)

    ... that explanation didn't help. Friendly advice: edit your introductory material and get rid of at least that much of the problem. Otherwise the irony of your brave admission of white privilege while stubbornly refusing to acknowledge your male privilege is going to derail any conversation about what you say is your substance. Editing the first paragraph doesn't eliminate the fact that you presume to know why she said what she said that made you feel so superior to her, but at least it won't shine a big ol' light on it.

    You didn't know it was offensive to many people, and that's fine. That's just ignorance, not evil. (And no, the fact that it's not offensive to all women at all times does not negate that. And no, the fact that some women call each other or refer to each other as "girls" does not negate that. Anything echoing here??)

    Now you know. Ball's in your court.

    •  I'm not going to edit the diary. (5+ / 0-)

      It's pretty obvious that the particular phrasing inspired many of the replies to it, and to edit it would be removing context from the discussion as well as being gutless on my part.

      Look, I get the point. It is important that women are referred to as equals in the workplace, by their co-workers and bosses. The word "girl" carries a negative/lesser/demeaning connotation with many women for good reason as it relates to the workplace. I maintain that I meant absolutely nothing by using the phrase "new girl" instead of "new person", but nevertheless it is a term that bothers many women and I will be more conscious of that in the future.

      Banking on the American people to be able to sort all this out and declare the adult in the room the winner is a very big bet. -Digby

      by Boogalord on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 11:25:26 AM PDT

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      •  At this point, I agree. When I started writing (1+ / 0-)
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        the comment, it was before many of the others. It's too late now -- probably just as well for people to see where you're coming from. I'll leave it there.

        The rest of your diary is an important topic, but beyond the time I have today. Good luck.

      •  In my opinion (2+ / 0-)

        as a Native American woman, the people totally ignoring of
        Boogalord's concerns about white privilege and focusing on one word concerning women instead, is a perfect example of White privilege.  I could see people remarking on it, and then commenting on the rest of his diary as being all right. But when the only thing that concerns you enough in this diary to comment on is a word concerning women tells me quite a bit about white privlege.

        Be well, ~*-:¦:-jennybravo-:¦:-*~

        by jennybravo on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 12:58:46 PM PDT

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      •  You can edit it to show the changes (2+ / 0-)
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        a line through "girl" followed by "co-worker" just like some other diarists do to make a point, that when one phrase isn't strong enough, they cross it out and replace it with something stronger.

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 01:09:42 PM PDT

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