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  •  It is much more practical and direct than that (4+ / 0-)

    Given the executive actions of the Bush administration after Bush v. Gore that the Obama administration cannot undo either because of Congress, momentum, or concern for the powers of the Presidency; given the ownership of Congress by K Street as a result of Citizens United; given the ownership of more and more legislatures by the Koch brothers and ALEC as a result of Citizens United; given the disadvantages to taking back power democratically because of gerrymandering and now the imposition of limitations on voter rights; given the absence of redress in the courts because of the automatic acceptance of "state secrets" doctrine; given the ideological bias of SCOTUS toward increasing corporate and state power; given all these trends, it is almost impossible and quite well might be impossible to redress grievances within the legal structure.

    When it becomes impossible, we have a serious crisis on our hands that likely can be only solved through popular uprising.

    I see arguments of not taking extraordinary actions using what levers of power and argument exist in the current system as either capitulating to hopelessness or thinking that business as usual will sort thinngs out.  I think we are well beyond the possibility of business and politics as usual being able to rebalance the system.  The coup has succeeded in eliminating those checks and balances that should have worked on behalf of the people.

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Fri Jul 05, 2013 at 06:23:09 AM PDT

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    •  I agree, and it's worse than institutions. (1+ / 0-)
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      Some of the comments here are just obviously silly, like "That's not how we do things in America" (LOL!), but there is some genuinely circular groupthink going on here that's a bit frightening to watch.  I'm seeing it unfold in some of the discussions, with people really struggling with the idea that the interpretive power of courts is not boundless.  That you can't just delegate all common sense to some authority.

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Fri Jul 05, 2013 at 06:45:01 AM PDT

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      •  A lot of people have not yet... (2+ / 0-)
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        come to the conclusion that (1) the legal system itself is broken; (2) part of the reason for it being broken is that legal professional ethics has succumbed to clients who insist "Don't tell me what I can't do; tell me how to do what I want to do or I will find a lawyer who will."

        We saw that in the Bush DOJ and we are seeing in the Obama DOJ.  And we have seen it become standard practic in corporate law.

        So we have a President who continues to commit extrajudicial punishment (a war crime) at Guantanamo because the alternative is to violate a GOP and Blue Dog created Congressional "law" and risk impeachment by the GOP House.

        On the other end of the spectrum, we have a lady in NC cited for "violating the rules of the legislative gallery" (which involves a fine) because she hollered out "Shame" afer the NC Senate railroaded through dramatic restrictions on abortion.  Criminalizing free speech.

        The system is broken.  The question is what extraordinary action do we need to take to fix it.

        50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

        by TarheelDem on Fri Jul 05, 2013 at 07:39:41 AM PDT

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