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  •  He did not. Of course, in his statements, he (5+ / 0-)

    claimed he was just heading back to his car and was suckered punched by Trayvon, so that would be his "excuse."

    The prosecution has brought up the fact numerous times that he never identified himself, and that (as well as staying in his car in the first place) could have avoided the whole thing.

    Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.

    by Happy Days on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 02:55:02 PM PDT

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    •  So many things don't add up. (8+ / 0-)

      Why was a volunteer neighborhood watch dude "patrolling" alone, armed with a handgun? Is it even legal for a private citizen to deputize himself and patrol his community like Zimmerman did? Who sanctioned this guy?  Did he get police training? Why did Zimmerman ignore the cop's instruction to stop following the boy? Is there a legal consequence to that?  

      Why isn't it problematic that Zimmerman's various versions of events don't add up or stay consistent?  Charles Blow did a good article on Zimmerman's multiple stories about what happened.

      The police conduct has been pretty awful.  The Detectives challenged witness accounts, for crying out loud.  

      •  He did work with the cops. The civilian employee.. (6+ / 0-)

        ...of the Sanford PD who runs the citizen volunteer program testified about that early in the trial. But Zimmerman violated the Sanford PD Neighborhood Watch rules laid out in the manual and in the National Sheriff's Association NW Manual.

        The Sanford P.D.'s Neighborhood Watch manual, which is five steps down from other NW manuals, still includes this admonition, which an NW coordinator like Zimmerman presumably read (bold face in the original):

        What you will not do is get physically involved with any activity you report or apprehension of any suspicious persons. This is the job of the law enforcement agency.
        The Neighborhood Watch Manual put out by the National Sheriff's Association itself states (caps in the original):
        Patrol members should be trained by law enforcement. It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles. They should also be cautioned to alert police or deputies when encountering strange activity. MEMBERS SHOULD NEVER CONFRONT SUSPICIOUS PERSONS WHO COULD BE ARMED AND DANGEROUS.
        In March 2012, before Zimmerman was arrested, the National Sheriff's Association issued this statement:
        "The alleged action of a “self-appointed neighborhood watchman” last month in Sanford, FL significantly contradicts the principles of the Neighborhood Watch Program,” stated NSA Executive Director Aaron D. Kennard, Sheriff (ret.). “NSA has no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program.”

        “The Neighborhood Watch Program fosters collaboration and cooperation with the community and local law enforcement by encouraging citizens to be aware of what is going on in their communities and contact law enforcement if they suspect something – NOT take the law in their own hands,” continued Executive Director Kennard.

        “The alleged participant ignored everything the Neighborhood Watch Program stands for and it resulted in a young man losing his life. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of Trayvon Martin during this terrible time.”

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 05:43:52 PM PDT

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