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  •  Are you kidding? (9+ / 0-)

    I just don't see any other way to interpenetrate:

    It’s not that Egypt doesn’t have a recipe for a democratic transition. It seems to lack even the basic mental ingredients.

    Hunter is dead on with this rant. And please explain the difference between radical Islam and tea party Christian because from here they look exactly the same.

    •  Then maybe you should stick to comic books. (0+ / 0-)

      "Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation..."--David St. Hubbins

      by Old Left Good Left on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 10:16:00 AM PDT

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    •  well (2+ / 0-)
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      TP Christians don't do a lot of killing.  There are differences.  Doesn't make EITHER very attractive humans, but there are differences.

      As for the article, it depends on what he meant.  If he meant capacity, then that's absolutely wrong.  Obviously as fellow humans, they have the same intellectual capacity as the rest of us, and what Brooks said was racist and prejudice.

      If he meant, inclination or mindset, then he is absolutely right.  Humans value different things.  Some value individual freedom most, some value freedom from want most, most usually value both in a relative sliding scale.  Some value religious fervor.  Some value safety and security.

      Some of the latter groups don't do so well with democracy not because they are incapable of it but because it isn't as important to them as it is to others.

      And there's nothing wrong with that per se.  Some could say easily that our version of democracy isn't as strong as others because of some of the things WE value more.

      So, I don't know what he meant exactly, and that meaning would flavor whether I agree with him or not.  Certainly, the Egyptian people as a whole are quite capable of any intellectual feat or ability we are.  Whether they value the same things we value is less certain, and wouldn't be surprising if they did since there are plenty of things we value others don't (good and bad).

      •  Not Yes,... (0+ / 0-)
        TP Christians don't do a lot of killing.
        ...but they are arming themselves, thanks to the NRA. They are throwing words about like "secession", "1st amendment remedies", "kill the abortionists", "take our country back". The degree of hate filled right wing talk that pollutess the airways on a daily basis, combined with religious fervor, will eventually send someone, or some group over the edge to the same kind of violence that dominates the middle east. Then, who will have the "mental ingredients" to pull this country back to democratic principals? Certainly not the vigilantes and their rabble rouses.


        Glottal fricative and breathy-voiced mid-low central unrounded vowel, repeated, diphthong ending with a high front vowel.

        by glb3 on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 11:04:24 AM PDT

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      •  glb3's comment notwithstanding, TP types (0+ / 0-)

        do exactly as much killing as they can reasonably get away with, and in the fashion that suits their cultural milieu. the body count is much, much higher than you seem to realize.

        To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

        by UntimelyRippd on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 11:23:32 AM PDT

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      •  How many people (2+ / 0-)
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        have the anti-abortion terrorists killed?

        Small varmints, if you will.

        by aztecraingod on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 11:37:07 AM PDT

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        •  you tell me (1+ / 0-)
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          should be an easy number to find, then compare it to radical islamists.

          Obviously BOTH splinter groups represent not the true and great religions they purport to represent but something twisted.

          But there are differences.

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