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  •  FYI--If the drones die from something they ate (48+ / 0-)

    then the female workers were dying long before that.

    Drones cannot feed themselves. The female workers feed drones at the hive. That means that whatever the drones get, is after the workers and basically the HIVE is already exposed.

    In the fall as the season ends, the workers kick them out of the hive and let them starve. The queen lays more drones the following spring.

    And when bees collect pollen and nectar from treated seed-crops like corn or sunflowers, it only takes 4 days for the poison to kill them when dealing with neonicotinoid treatments.

    When bees deal with scattered areas treated, they still bring in sublethal doses, and as they evaporate the moisture off of the nectar to make honey, it concentrates the neonics in the nectar 5 times what it was when they brought that nectar home, easily pushing sublethal dosages into a lethal range, to be fed to every bee and larva in that hive.

    That's why when beeks find abandoned hives with capped honey in it, that the critters don't try to rob it out. Once the nectar becomes honey, the concentration of NeoNics in the substance is high enough for bees and some animals to detect.

    You can still eat it too, and won't taste a thing. And who needs a thyroid anyhow?

    •  I think the diarist meant worker bees... (2+ / 0-)
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      as well as drones.

      Many people don't know the difference. ;)

      For anyone interested, in a feral, natural hive it's something like a 70/30 split between worker bees and drones (male bees). In domesticated hives, the drone population may be less (half that amount) if methods to suppress drone brood are used (which has recently come into question as a practice, since it limits genetic adaptation to environmental stressors).

      So, most bees in the hive are worker bees (female, but unable to lay fertilized eggs, although sometimes in a queenless hive a worker will lay unfertilized drone eggs).

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 02:47:00 PM PDT

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      •  You are right. (1+ / 0-)
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        I am not a bee expert. However, what I read about colony collapse disorder scares the hell out of me.

        There are a lot of ways to deal with pests than with this pesticide.

        In all that I have read, it seems that this idea was a solution in search of a problem. The need for this chemical has never been fully explained. Why is it preferable to other, safer methods?

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