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  •  Very disturbing (2+ / 0-)
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    YucatanMan, 88kathy

    The NTSB is going to be very busy with this one.

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    by Sparhawk on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 12:32:49 PM PDT

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    •  Actually with the plane mostly in tact, the debis (0+ / 0-)

      field small, pilots surviving this one s/b one of the fastest.

      I'm thinking it will be a fly by wire problem.

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      by 88kathy on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 01:15:26 PM PDT

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      •  Maybe, but you'd expect to notice the trajectory (2+ / 0-)
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        was too low and maybe too far right of the centerline unless they didn't notice the control wasn't responding. Maybe they were using the autoland computer and they either didn't notice it was flying too low or they somehow set it or calibrated it too low.

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        by JPax on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 02:03:18 PM PDT

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        •  This is an interesting article from 2012 (2+ / 0-)
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          Who is really flying the plane? Here

          Even Capt. Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger enjoyed the backup of computer autopilot during his famous "miracle on the Hudson" emergency landing three years ago.

          .....snip

          In fact, flight control computers actually hindered the landing, said Sullenberger,

          ....snip

          "So we hit harder than we would have, had we been able to keep the nose up," he said. "That was a little-known part of the software that no airline operators or pilots knew about."

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          by 88kathy on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 02:11:19 PM PDT

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          •  A good pilot can be best, but pilot's can make (2+ / 0-)
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            errors and are usually to blame in crashes. Not that I want to blame these pilots without trial, mistakes happen, but the first thing to do is see if they simply flew it into the ground. That should be fairly quick and easy to figure out from flight data and any video footage that might be found.

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            by JPax on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 02:27:33 PM PDT

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    •  The pilots are alive and they won't have to dig (2+ / 0-)
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      through much wreckage or go fishing in the middle of the ocean to find the black box, this should be one of the easier investigations.

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      by yg17 on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 02:36:04 PM PDT

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      •  Right, and yet talking heads are saying weeks (0+ / 0-)

        it will be before they know anything.

        There's such a thing as being too timid in news reporting.

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        by JPax on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 02:46:44 PM PDT

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      •  easier (2+ / 0-)
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        isn't necessarily faster. NTSB is very thorough in their work. But the black boxes should be easy to find; even stuff that landed in the bay will be easy: the water's shallow right there.

        (Is it time for the pitchforks and torches yet?)

        by PJEvans on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 03:20:38 PM PDT

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