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  •  Thanks for the roundup, MB (12+ / 0-)

    I worry about people who will never be able to find a job again.  Seems to me that in today's economy you should not only save furiously when actually employed, but also have several different ways to make a living--one of which includes self-employment.

    It would be much easier to be self-employed if we had a  national health care system.  Why was the USA so insane as to tie health care to jobs after WWII?  I suppose the word "socialism" scared policymakers so much they clutched their pearls and opted for the opposite course.

    All the news is always bad, all the time.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 04:46:09 AM PDT

    •  the problem is, self (10+ / 0-)

      employed doing what?  If people can't afford to get their teeth fixed and their appendix out, they are not going to have money to do other things.  The banks are still not lending to small businesses.

      My son remains appallingly underemployed three years post college, has had precisely four interviews in those three years.  He's been able to work for free a few times ("Internships") but never led to paid work - and if he had a job, he'd BUY things, and create more jobs.  Multiply that by tens of millions.

      We need a New New Deal, a real jobs program, national single payer health care, and nothing else is going to work.  We can put band aids on this slashed throat a little bit longer, but "every day the bucket goes to the well, and one day the bottom will drop out."  It's coming.

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      by KibbutzAmiad on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 05:30:00 AM PDT

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      •  Kibbutz, something I've often wanted is a person (7+ / 0-)

        who would do computer hand-holding for oldsters. There are numerous things clueless persons such as I need help with--what some computer whizzes would consider a "coffee break chore" seems quite daunting to people like me.

        Here are just a few things a neighborhood compu-guru could do for the clueless:

        Scan chosen photos from birth through old age for a person, download them to a CD or flash drive for future use (I'm thinking of memorial services or, more cheerfully, milestone birthday celebrations).

        Download music to a flash drive or CD for people's memorial services or birthday celebrations.  Not everyone wants, or knows how to use, an iPod.

        Show people how to upload their backup files to a service like Dropbox.  I still haven't figured out how to do that.

        Find out what's wrong with people's backup programs.

        Clean up someone's hard drive.

        These are just a few of the things.  Yes, I could find someone to do these things in my home--for $65 to $100 an hour.  Can't afford that.  Could afford $25 an hour if it didn't go on too long.

        I also need someone to do garden work like weed whacking or pulling weeds.  Lawn services only seem to want to mow the lawn, which my husband does with the riding mower.  It's the other chores we need help with but again, it would cost an enormous amount.

        A few signs put up around the neighborhood would be a start, then it might be word of mouth. Admittedly, it's not a very grand way to make a living but a little money is better than nothing at all.

        "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

        by Diana in NoVa on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 06:37:49 AM PDT

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      •  When you can find money, it's nice to be able to (3+ / 0-)
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        make it.

        Don't know how I would have survived the last 14 years without self-employment.  Old tech types are not favored in our country.

        Not everybody can do it, but it sure as hell make not sense to shoot the legs out of those who can.

        Another change I would make --

        Taxes for the "accidentally" self-employed are a real problem.
        It's a completely different world of witholding payroll taxes for your self, quarterly reporting, etc.
        Penalties can add up, and payroll taxes act in a completely different manner for ordinary income taxes.
        Funny thing: the kind of taxes that rich people incur can be discharged in bankruptcy, not to mention negotiated down by lawyers and the like.

        The kind of tax problem poor schmoes trying to grab a buck here and there to feed their families? Full wrath of the federal government.

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        by dinotrac on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 07:04:44 AM PDT

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    •  Agreed. (0+ / 0-)

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      by dinotrac on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 07:00:02 AM PDT

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