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  •  In fairness (3+ / 0-)
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    sewaneepat, xxdr zombiexx, lightarty

    He never said "he wouldn't spy at all," so that doesn't count as a broken promise.




    Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
    ~ Jerry Garcia

    by DeadHead on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 02:18:04 AM PDT

    •  Well, he sorta did... (4+ / 0-)
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      When I am president, there will be no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war.
      - Senator Obama
      December 24, 2007

      It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

      by Jaime Frontero on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 03:07:12 AM PDT

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      •  I stand corrected (3+ / 0-)

        A broken promise it is, then. ;)




        Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
        ~ Jerry Garcia

        by DeadHead on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 03:38:09 AM PDT

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        •  It's capmaign promise (1+ / 0-)
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          all politicans make a slew of those.

          I don't usually hold them to them, because I expect politicians to tell us all sorts of rosy shit to make us elect them.

          It's just how the game it played.

        •  When they hand you the football (2+ / 0-)
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          I think you get briefed on things most of us do not know. I imagine he was told by people like the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "You can't do that, and here is why..."

          Once the genie is out of the bottle it is hard to put it back in.

          “We can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities.” - Winston Chuchill

          by se portland on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 06:04:54 AM PDT

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          •  That is the most plausible of all. (1+ / 0-)
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            The interlocking strata of government actions must be quite Byzantine, after all the years since nuclear diplomacy began.

            That doesn't make it right, of course.  It doesn't mean that we citizens should be 'out in the cold' (as Alec Leamas might have posited).

            And it doesn't mean our choices have been even remotely well-informed.

            The echo chamber within our (or any) government is so limited.  Who knows what potential good has been and is being ignored, due to "conventional wisdom" (as that echo chamber is known)?

            I remember in the film of Ishiguru's; The Remains of the Day, the American diplomat (played by Christopher Reeve) said that we needed to become professionals at government.  That American amateurs were no longer a match for the complexity of government and international realities.

            Watching that film, I agreed - at the time I saw it.

            I may have been mistaken.

            It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

            by Jaime Frontero on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 12:08:57 PM PDT

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