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  •  I couldn't watch 24. (26+ / 0-)

    I liked the format, hated the torture.  It's the same reason that I had to stop watching another Fox show that I was really starting to enjoy, The Following. The first times the good guys tortured prisoners, I bailed on it for good.  

    What bothers me about the presentation of torture in these films is that it's shown as something that the good guys just gotta do, like taking out the trash or lancing a boil, once in a while, grimacing and hating it but, damn, a real man has to do these things.  And, of course, it's nice and gory and dramatic on screen, too.

    This makes me remember Gene Autry and the Cowboy Code.

       The Cowboy must never shoot first, hit a smaller man, or take unfair advantage.

        He must never go back on his word, or a trust confided in him.

        He must always tell the truth.

        He must be gentle with children, the elderly, and animals.

        He must not advocate or possess racially or religiously intolerant ideas.

        He must help people in distress.

        He must be a good worker.

        He must keep himself clean in thought, speech, action, and personal habits.

        He must respect women, parents, and his nations laws.

        The Cowboy is a patriot.

    There used to be a time a film hero could represent something like that without being corny.
    •  You didn't see "Captain America", did you? (10+ / 0-)

      1st time in FOREVER a hero stuck to the "rules" of being a hero, and didn't come off as corny or self righteous.

      I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

      by detroitmechworks on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 11:00:25 AM PDT

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      •  No, didn't see it. (6+ / 0-)

        I have to admit I hate superheros in polyester.  It's the one thing that made Smallville enjoyable to me.

        I was very disappointed by Nolan's Batman.  I saw the implications of what he was doing right away, and posted that I thought it was a fascist fantasy.  And got HR'ed for it, too, by fans.

        I think these flicks aren't propaganda aimed at changing us, but reflect how we've changed Hollywood.  It has to be or there wouldn't be so much of it, and it wouldn't be so quickly scooped up and raved about.

      •  The modern (post unfreezing) Cap is the Icon of (3+ / 0-)
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        what Twain, Steinbeck, and Vonnegut dreamed for America.

        He's Jack London's answer to Nietzsche's Man and Superman.

        He started out an empowerment fantasy/mary sue for everything a couple broke skinny Jewish kids from the Lower East Side who spent their teens in the worst depths of depression wanted America to aspire to being.  

        A hell of a lot of comic characters have had worse roots!

        But since the end of the 60's, his relationship with our government has been far more complex.  He's repeatedly refused to go along with shit he considered to be wrong.  I mean, it's a defining feature of the character, not just something happens once in a while.

        I hope to god one of the next two movies introduces Isaiah Bradley and the  Truth: Red, White & Black storyline.  

        Comic book movies can be what comic books are today instead of what they were 60 years ago.

        Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

        by JesseCW on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 01:12:07 PM PDT

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    •  Matt Dillon of "Gunsmoke" was like that. (2+ / 0-)
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    •  Rustlers' Rhapsody (2+ / 0-)
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      With Tom Berenger as The Singing Cowboy, G.W. Bailey as the sidekick, Andy Griffith as evil cattle baron, and Marilu Henner as the love interest (at the end they get past first base).

      A tragically overlooked sendup of Autry and westerns in general.

      In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy

      by boriscleto on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 07:02:22 PM PDT

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