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  •  Corporations hiring private armies to keep (10+ / 0-)

    the citizens of this country at bay and you think that's alright?

    You may not like the tactics of the protesters, but to side with private military fascism within our national borders?

    Seriously? Do you not understand how and why the American revolution came to be in the first place?

    "We must make our choice. We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Louis Brandies

    by Pescadero Bill on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 08:39:08 AM PDT

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    •  Um... yes... (0+ / 0-)
      Corporations hiring private armies to keep
      the citizens of this country at bay and you think that's alright?
      You don't have the right to trespass on other people's property and steal or damage their possessions.

      They have every right to hire security to stop you from doing so.

      How is this in any way wrong?

      Seriously? Do you not understand how and why the American revolution came to be in the first place?
      As I recall, it began with tax protests.  What is your point?  Tea Party anyone?
      •  You are not well informed on this particular (2+ / 0-)
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        kideni, Lisa

        piece of land, nor do you wish to be. You've come in to post all these responses to get the last word once the diary left the rec list.

        If you read the links in the updates, you would know that this isn't "private property" in the sense that most people understand it. The public is allowed to use it so that the out-of-state landowners can get a sweet deal on their property taxes.

        So "trespass" and armed guards isn't really at issue - the public are allowed to use this land fairly freely (hunt, fish, hike, take pictures, sing songs, etc).

        While it is true that tossing a cel phone into the shrubs is not legal, it is also not a significant act of vandalism or theft or sabotage. It was stupid, but in most instances that behavior wouldn't merit out-of-state security with significant weaponry to prevent it happening again. I'm sure it happens at school on a nearly daily basis somewhere.

        •  stealing cell phones (1+ / 0-)
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          Lisa

          Not to mention the fact that one of the mining company executives did the same thing. The guy filed a complaint, and the county finally said yesterday that they weren't going to file charges because the exec says he thought the guy was giving him his phone. How should people protect themselves from out-of-control mining company executives? Obviously, this is only a problem if the cell phone grabber is a relatively powerless twenty-something.

      •  authoritarianism (1+ / 0-)
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        kideni

        loves The Powers That Be and woe to anyone who would challenge them.

        I suspect you would be calling for the heads of anyone who tipped tea into Boston harbor.

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