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  •  I agree. The title really says it all. (57+ / 0-)

    The Conservatives betrayed the party they forced their way into, took it over, and are now destroying it.

      But worse yet, they betrayed America with their anti-democratic and corrupt nonsense, and the Nation is worse off for what they've managed to "accomplish."

    "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

    by elwior on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 01:04:04 AM PDT

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    •  I think for those reasons (12+ / 0-)

      you will see Democrats pick up seats....not liberal or progressive seats - but with Republican moderates leaving the party - will set up more "Blue Dog" Democrats.  For this reason, the Democratic party continues to shift to the right.

      So the good news is the Republican party is imploding - the bad news is the Republican party is imploding.

      The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

      by ctexrep on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 05:42:47 AM PDT

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      •  Don't discount gerrymandering (12+ / 0-)

        Combine gerrymandering of state and congressional districts with the constant barrage of righteous right propaganda from pulpit and press and TV...we're left with a steep hill to climb.

        •  Add to that, the undemocratic Senate and (1+ / 0-)
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          Electoral College and they can still screw things up for the majority.

        •  and that hill mae steeper by the constant attacks (1+ / 0-)
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          by the frustrati on the left.

          EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

          by edrie on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 11:13:31 AM PDT

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          •  um...made, not mae... nt (0+ / 0-)

            EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

            by edrie on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 11:32:11 AM PDT

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          •  That's crap. Hill made steeper by Dem abandonment (0+ / 0-)

            of the working and middle classes, is more like it. It has allowed itself to be taken over by big money (just as the GOP to a greater extent). The conservative trajectory of the Democrats was made possible by the vacuum left by the far far right Repugs, but much of the electorate, unable to see enough difference between the Dems and the GOP on key economic issues, is all-too-frequently tempted to vote GOP instead of for the former workers' party.

            The crisis of the GOP is also the crisis of the Democratic Party, and the weakening of American association and alignment with BOTH parties is the result. The Dem drift to the right is endangering it -- especially IF the GOP ever gets rid of the far right Teabagger/Talibangelical yoke and moderates. THe vacuum now is on the left, with working folks and paycheck-to-paycheck lower and middle class Americans left without any substantial representation among the Beltway political elite.

            "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

            by Kombema on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 03:21:15 PM PDT

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            •  anyone who cannot see the difference (0+ / 0-)
              I've tried to explain the FISA bait-and-switch to a number of intelligent, over-educated people.  But unless you're steeped in surveillance law, it's hard to understand.
              only has to be female and childbearing age and need an abortion.

              when that wand is rammed up inside her (and it should be mandatory for the male who impregnated her, also, imho), then they will damned know the difference!

              EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

              by edrie on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 03:32:53 PM PDT

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              •  You're confusing some social issues (which are (0+ / 0-)

                held out often like scraps to the hungry Dem base) with core economic issues. Yes, Dems still more protective of gay, women's, minority social rights than Repugs. But on economic core issues, including role of government in society, much of the Dem Party is bought and sold to the corporations and the rest of the 1%.

                Tell me you firmly believe this to be a lie. If you see the Dems steadfastly defending the economic position of the rapidly declining middle class, then there's little to debate. If you will at least acknowledge the rightward fiscal and economic swing under Clinton and Obama, then we can debate about how much. how bad, and how important. Otherwise, it's just a rightwing talking point to trash "the left" as being an impediment to Democratic ascendancy. And a myth.  

                "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

                by Kombema on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 03:53:20 PM PDT

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                •  i've had a very bad day and night tonite so i will (0+ / 0-)

                  not respond to you tonite.  otherwise i might take your head off - and that would be unfair as other issues would be incorporated with my frustration at your position.

                  we can pick this up later when i'm not in "green" mode (hulk).


                  EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

                  by edrie on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 11:57:33 PM PDT

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      •  I see that happening in Maine (9+ / 0-)

        Governor Le Page probably snuck into office because nobody liked either the Democratic candidate Libby Mitchell or the Independent candidate Eliot Cutler but most people voted for one or the other of those choices rather than the Republican LePage.

        Maines coast and urban areas are pretty dependably blue, but in a three way with independents enough of the vote gets siphoned off to be a problem unless the Democratic candidate is a strong contender.

        This year the first "Democratic" candidate to jump in the ring was Steve Woods whose idea of enlightened piolicy would be to take all the infrastructure funding from 108 small rural Maine villages and give it to urban areas on the premise that urban areas create more jobs than rural areas. The people living in the villages could just be relocated he says. Woods has previously run for office as independent or unenrolled.

        The second Democrat District 2's representative Mike Michaud recently formed an exploratory committee. Mike is a pro life member of the Blue Dog coalition who is good on healthcare,  labor, and veterans.

        Despite his being pro life NARAL gave Michaud a 100% rating because of the votes Michaud made in favor of allowing and expanding stem cell research, and his vote against banning abortion from federal health care coverage.

        Mike stands a pretty good chance of winning the primary. He has served seven terms in the Maine Legislature, including two in the Maine House of Representatives and 5 in the Maine Senate where he was President of the senate before becoming District 2 representative to the US Congress.

        As of April of this year The Bangor Daily News claimed

        AUGUSTA, Maine — If independent Eliot Cutler ran for governor as a Democrat in 2014, he would lead incumbent Republican Gov. Paul LePage by almost eight percentage points, according to a poll released Wednesday.
        The Bangor Daily News also opined that
        Mike Michaud, a Democrat who represents Maine’s 2nd District, would fare slightly better than Baldacci, garnering 22.8 percent compared with LePage (33.5 percent) and Cutler (25.6 percent) if those three men competed to be Maine’s next governor. Those finding mirror January Public Policy Polling results that indicate LePage would win a three-person contest.
        Cutlers FB page shows that a lot of people who previously voted for Cutler see him as a spoiler and would vote for Michaud.

        My opinion is that in the general election Mike should win in a three way with Cutler and LePage because of the political skills that made him senate president.

        Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

        by rktect on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 08:06:00 AM PDT

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        •  I hope you're right. (1+ / 0-)
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          61% of Mainers did not vote for LePetomaine.

          My first response to Michaud's exploratoring a bid for Blaine House in the wake of Cutler's announced candidacy was consternation at the prospect of another split-the-non-GOP-vote election result, along with the possibility of a Republican snagging Michaud's 2nd District seat in the House.

          But the evidence does suggest Michaud has a much better shot than my fears allow, and yes, I know an awful lot of people who hold Cutler directly responsible for the last result and would either vote for the Democratic candidate or stay home.  (The thing that would most surely keep those folks at home IMHO would be Baldacci's return.)

          Another possibility would be a change in the election laws (e.g. instant run-off, weighted voting) that would ensure the governor would be elected by a majority of Mainers, by either a first or second choice vote.

          But I'm not sure how that would fly with Mainers -- a lot would depend on how any proposed change to the system is designed and explained to voters.

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          They're provably not "pro-life", not the way they cut SNAP and health funding.  Don't use their own propaganda terminology.  They're forced birth.  

          •  Michaud is pro SNAP and Health (0+ / 0-)

            and has 100% rating from NARAL.

            As for Cutler I know some of the State Committee and the County Executive committees have been discussing whether to offer him some support if he changes his mind and decides to run against Collins instead of LePage.

            Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

            by rktect on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 01:43:41 PM PDT

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      •  Just like the conservatives learned from the (1+ / 0-)
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        communist, I think we need to learn from the conservatives.   We need to create a challenge within the Democratic Party that will result in three non-partisan schisms that give voters three real alternatives:   a.  crazy religious extremists/Paulites  b.) corporatists/establishment/status quo and c.) left of center/socialism lite

        Something different has to be done.   It cannot continue like it is.   Our kids will be wearing yokes and plowing fields or in jails.

        What we need is a Democrat in the White House. Warren/Spitzer 2016

        by dkmich on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 11:56:28 AM PDT

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    •  So WHO financed Rush and White ? (6+ / 0-)

      Their groups are described as well organized and well financed so following the mney, who financed them in those early days?

      Holy Cow!!! 06/18/2013 and I've got my mojo back!!!! A new signature will be written shortly.

      by Josiah Bartlett on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 08:40:08 AM PDT

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