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  •  All my employees are Black (31+ / 0-)

    I hang out in a part of the world where I have been pulled over for "driving while white," no vehicle code violation necessary.

    In every traffic stop I have seen where a Black individual was involved, the first question was, "Any drugs or weapons in the vehicle?"  Never heard that when everyone was white.  I consider it pretty insulting.

    During a traffic stop a few years ago (seatbelt violation) my Black employees were removed from the vehicle and frisked.  The deputy had me step from the vehicle and said he was going to frisk me also, and I told him to keep his ("EFFING!") hands to himself.  I took off my shirt, pulled up my jeans cuffs, and then dropped trou on the side of the road, the full monte.  "Satisfied?"  He backed off.  My employees were in shock at that.  No one had seen that before.

    Later I took the seatbelt citation to traffic court, and it was dismissed; the judge told the CHP officer to his face that he was dismissing the citation because the officer was lying.

    Which he was.  Nice to see it acknowledged.

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    by RepackRider on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 05:32:20 PM PDT

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    •  It helps to get an officer's name and badge (14+ / 0-)

      The thing is, they have to provide that information, so they consider it unfair that the perps they demand the same thing from don't. Cop training has somehow failed to inform that the rules are different. They are hired and paid to follow orders. Ordinary citizens, who are actually their superiors, have no such obligation.
      Cops do unto others as was done to them. That's human nature. It's just not how the system is supposed to work.
      Then too, drivers of vehicles have agreed during the licensing process to surrender their license for inspection on demand. So, the cops think passengers and pedestrians should be covered by the same standard. They don't appreciate that the license merely attests to the fact that a driver has demonstrated the ability to operate a potentially lethal machine safely and, if they witness unsafe behavior, they can question the validity of the license or if there is one.
      Driver's licenses used for other purposes is inappropriate. But, challenging it in court is a hassle.

      We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 05:45:12 PM PDT

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      •  I think the war on drugs (1+ / 0-)
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        Has let to them not knowing where the limits are.

        They have so much power given to them to intrude on the lives of people from the war on drugs that they start thinking that they can do anything they want.

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        by splashy on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 11:19:44 AM PDT

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