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  •  That is probably not a simple question. (0+ / 0-)

    They have by far the largest population in the Arab world. There has been a significant rise in the birth rate in recent years. Much of the country is still involved in agriculture. The military has had a strangle hold on the economy since they took power in the 1950s.

    •  They have comparatively the same population (1+ / 0-)
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      Here is a google population trajectory of Iran, Egypt, and Turkey.  I have heard that the population of Iran stopped climbing as dramatically as it did in the 80s because the clerics decided to dump tons of birth control onto the population in fears that the increase in population would be unsustainable.  That now they are trying to stop that policy.

      Back to the point I guess.  Nasser was all about industrialization.  What happened?  Was becoming an ally to America and "westernizing" that devastating?

      •  I think that Turkey (0+ / 0-)

        would be an interesting basis for comparison. While they have been having some political upheavals recently they are much more economically prosperous and are at least theoretically candidates for admission to the EU.

        I am most certainly not an expert on Egypt and its problems. I got interested in it when the initial uprising began two years ago. The thing that seems to stand out about the economic problems is the role of the military leaders and their accumulation of personal wealth.

        It is also a country that has been heavily dependent on tourism because of its history. That has pretty much dried up because of the political instability.


      •  The three points of that triangle make an (0+ / 0-)

        interesting comparison.  

        I searched this page for the word 'Israel' and I wasn't able to find it.  It is, of course, Egypt's neighbor, and there has been peace between them for 34 years.  

        The importance of preserving peace must be remembered.  The relationship between the US and Egypt is primarily based on the treaty obligations to maintain that peace.  

        It is also important to question whether the 34 year-old US policy is still the best way to keep the peace.  The US accomplishes that goal by ensuring that Israel and Egypt have the ability to defend themselves against each other.  It continually supplies weapons, arms, other military equipment, training, and financing, in effect, balancing the power between the two.  Neo-cons and the military industrial complex see to it that Egypt is kept on a leash.  It has the potential to achieve overwhelming power compared to its neighbor, so it is always cast as a danger.
        This US policy is stuck now at a dead end.

        There is no existence without doubt.

        by Mark Lippman on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 02:37:49 PM PDT

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