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  •  Heck, I'm a progressive Dem and I don't understand (32+ / 0-)

    women.  Just ask my wife.  

    See?  I just invited you to ask her instead of providing her answer for her.  So I'm obviously not a Republican.

    Yes, Republicans should stop shrinking government to the point where it fits down there - there are other issues more important.

    •  But do you understand that you don't take (18+ / 0-)

      the pill every time you have sex, or that holding an aspirin between your knees is not a reliable form of birth control, or the big one, women who are raped cannot get pregnant.  This is basic stuff we're asking them to understand and they can't even bother enough with us to go there.  

      Now our moods.  That's another story.

      The GOP will destroy anything they can't own.

      by AnnieR on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 01:43:36 PM PDT

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      •  Our mood would be better (24+ / 0-)

        if we didn't constantly see fat old white men making up shit about us and passing laws about things that shouldn't concern them.

        I'd be downright giddy if society found a way to take care of all that. You know, like our bodies "take care" of rape sperm...

        THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. -- L. Ron Hubbard Technique 88

        by xenubarb on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 01:59:41 PM PDT

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      •  Can you all stop talking about women in (3+ / 0-)
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        such broad generalisations, please?  You might be moody, but that doesn't mean all women are.

        •  The Rumble You Hear.... (7+ / 0-)

          Not a few Muslim women like being hidden from head to toe when they go out in public, not being allowed to go out without a male, not being allowed to drive, and so on.

          Some people like being in prison or the military where life's major decisions are made for them.

          But I think a great many women in America who were raised (and are being raised) as subservient second-class citizens are slowly catching on. I think two things are contributing to that:

          One, oddly, is the Phyllis Schafley / Ann Coulter group of right wing commentators. They preach the woman staying at home, quiet and subservient, but are out front, making money and stating their views.

          The second thing is television. We stopped watching it years ago, but it's even obvious to us that there are a lot of outspoken and independent women on TV, be they on talk shows or characters in shows. This is one reason preachers talk against TV so vehemently.

          So, two things that are no good are having a good result: women, and especially repressed women, have been catching on to the fact that they're human beings and not chattel. It's a slow motion result, but it seems to be popping up a lot more in the last five years.

          What does this mean? Democrats traditionally do better with female voters, both because our policies are more caring and humane, and because we don't believe women are scum. Conservatives have always belittled women.

          But even the obedient kitchen-and-bedroom-and-shut-your-trap Republican woman is looking in the mirror and realizing that that is wrong. They're getting tired of a political party that belittles and humiliates them.

          And they're breaking the bonds of Conservatism and voting for Democrats in larger and larger numbers. In the next few years I fully expect to see women begin voting for Democrats in the same percentages that Hispanics, African-Americans, and Asians are voting now.

          And it would be a real shame if Democrats didn't make that easier for them to do.

          A Southerner in Yankeeland

          To save your life read "Pity The Billionaire" by Thomas Frank, and "Winner-Take-All-Politics" by Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson. Then read more books.

          by A Southerner in Yankeeland on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 04:04:57 PM PDT

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        •  It was said as a joke (2+ / 0-)
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          You know, "it must be that time of the month" sort of thing.  Our moods aren't any moodier than men's moods.  We just get the short end of it because we have periods.  Makes us fodder for ridicule on some sick level.

          The GOP will destroy anything they can't own.

          by AnnieR on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 06:34:45 AM PDT

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      •  Ah, Foster Fries... (3+ / 0-)
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        I was actually about to write a lengthy reply in defense of Fries, that the aspirin-between-the-knees comment is an old stupid joke from the sixties about how broads don't need The Pill, aspirin between the legs is cheaper and more effective because if you don't spread your legs wide enough to drop the aspirin, you can't open them to let a guy schtupp you har de har har tip your waitresses.
        I was going to write about how nobody really believes this is an effective form of birth control, that it just shows a cruel indifference to the plight of women fighting for the right to control their own bodies but Fries isn't stupid enough to believe that, that no one is stupid enough to believe that...

        ...then I remembered we're talking about Today's Republican Party. Where No Stupid Is Too Stupid.

        •  Threw that one in there because of the (0+ / 0-)

          disdain shown women by GOPer men, not because it was fact.  Their disdain for us along with their willingness to control through legislation every aspect of our lives pisses me off.  And hopefully is starting to piss off a lot of others.  Why the GOP is no longer relevant is beyond my comprehension, but that's another story for another day.

          The GOP will destroy anything they can't own.

          by AnnieR on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 10:18:32 AM PDT

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    •  yes, that's nice but, (3+ / 0-)
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      i'm talking physical facts about women's bodies.

      Racial hostility, homophobia and misogyny are braided together like strands of the same rope. When we fight one, we fight them all. - Charles M. Blow

      by blueoregon on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 01:54:05 PM PDT

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      •  I'm thinking regulation should be protections (14+ / 0-)

        of the doctor-patient relationship.  There is no need for government to be involved, other than to make sure the doctor actually follows proper medical procedures (doesn't lie, does no harm, etc).  I think politicians playing doctor - even ones who have a medical background like Frist who diagnosed Terry Schiavo from a thousand miles away based upon a few seconds of video - should back off and not get between the woman and her doctor.  They should also make sure she has access to a doctor, as I also believe that's a right, not a privilege.

        So yes, politicians should understand what they're legislating about and they shouldn't make sh*t up or ignore expert advice that conflicts with their agenda.  But that's how many politicians roll.

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