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  •  Four of five ridiculous preachers are black ... (8+ / 0-)

    That offends me. Because plenty of white guys who preach this garbage.

    I find the prosperity gospel to be a horrible perversion of Christianity, but this show seems to be peddling it as a mostly black thing. I find that troublesome.

    Fine, you can argue it portrays Christians in a negative light, but my skin is plenty thick enough for that. I am much more offended it portrays black Christians as hucksters. Which I'm sure some are, as, well, some people are. But the balance seems way off.

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    by Magenta on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 05:53:02 PM PDT

    •  That's what my take was. (5+ / 0-)

      Way off balance.  Then I read that it was made by BET people (Black Entertainment TV, iirc)  and I wonder that I have no idea how black people would take this.  From my white perspective,  it looks like a hit piece on black preachers, especially since SoCal to me would include Orange County and other bastions of serious fundie christian buffoonery.

      Curious how few folks have picked up on this.

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      by claude on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 07:02:44 PM PDT

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      •  Huh. (2+ / 0-)
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        I didn't realize it was a BET production. Was this supposed to make people feel good about these preachers? Because, man, I look at this stuff and just want to throw some Gospel at them. I mean, I know there are preachers who do this prosperity Gospel stuff, but it's not Gospel. It's really not. "Take up your cross and follow me" is worlds away from "Follow me and pick up the BMW."

        I truly find it offensive regardless of race to equate this idea that it's daddy in sky who gives goodies, which is not at all the message of Christianity from my perspective. I am not saying that there are not Christians who don't see it that way. I realize there are, but I would say they misinterpret.

        And before someone comes and says I don't get to define Christian and really we're all equally bad and, etc., etc., yes, I realize if they define themselves as Christians, I suppose I have to accept that they are then Christian. Got it. But I disagree with a lot of people who would call themselves patriots, as well, so same sort of thing.

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        by Magenta on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 08:16:09 PM PDT

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      •  Well since the majority of the cast is black (1+ / 0-)
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        I have a feeling a majority of the audience will be black as well.  It seems like it was made on a network owned by a black person, by a black producer for a mostly black audience.  If all the things in the program are true, I see no reason to protest on racial grounds.

        Could some white people form negative impressions about black churches based on this program?  Yes.  Could some white people form negative impressions about black people based on what they see on TV?  Yes, on nearly every network.  

    •  yeah, wasn't Joel O'Steen the first big pimp of (5+ / 0-)
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      the "Prosperity Gospel" or the antigospel as I see it...

      And I'm not very religious anymore but I do remember growing up during the heyday of Liberation Theology and with Priests and Nuns who actually cared about social justice whether it was feeding the poor or tending to the sick etc.....you know all that hoo haa that silly Sermon on the Mount talks about, the Beatitudes and all that insignificant stuff....at least compared to Leviticus some verses excepted esp. those pertaining to shrimp, bacon and poly cotton blends of course.......

      Charlatans all.....

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      by buddabelly on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 10:43:23 PM PDT

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      •  Blessed are the cheesemakers. (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Joel Osteen was not the first by a long shot (1+ / 0-)
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        by TrueBlueMajority on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 10:43:26 AM PDT

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      •  Prosperity Gospel ... (0+ / 0-)

        very tied to the Social Darwinism of the late 19th/early 20th centuries. It is relatively new in the terms of 2,000 or so years of theology but does precede Osteen, although he was a major shill for the concept. Another was Robert Schuller. Both white. I just find it weird that prosperity Gospel has become so largely a black thing. I mean, I guess I get it in the sense that it is an antithesis of using the Gospel to keep black people in slavery. But it does bother me, because if you read the Gospel as if you believe right bad stuff won't happen and you'll get a fat paycheck, it seems to me to have rather missed the point.

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        by Magenta on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 11:02:06 AM PDT

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