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  •  "God" is offering Christians eternal life (6+ / 0-)

    in exchange for a trivial little baptism.

    That is a hell of a deal.

    (if not factually correct doctrine I don't care)

    "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Thomas Paine

    by shrike on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 04:10:11 PM PDT

    •  Older = More Primitive (4+ / 0-)

      People created the various gods; the more primitive the people, the more primitive the gods.

      That's why the "Old" Testament is more primitive and evil than the "New" Testament (which isn't saying much).

      Almost everyone is the religion of the culture they grew up in.

      There are plenty of people in other religions who believe as deeply and sincerely as anyone in any other religion.

      Religion has been responsible for an untold amount of torture, murder, suffering, maiming, and division – and is still going about its work today.

      The more religious a person is the more unreliable they are as a source of truth or knowledge.

      Faith is about the worst reason to believe anything. A person who believes something by faith is liable to believe anything. Reason, logic and proof are the only rational reasons for believing anything – and religion is unreasonable, illogical, and can not offer any proof of it's founder being supernatural. That's why it has to be believed by faith.

      The liberal denominations, being the least fanatical, are the least harmful denominations.

      No religion makes sense. There are internal contradictions, promote evil actions, stifle learning and thinking, and support bad governments.

      There are very religious people who are vastly morally inferior to many non-religious people. Rather than a source from which we learn Good and Evil, religion is a source of Evil that is constantly attacking Good.

      Outside of that it's fine.

      A Southerner in Yankeeland.

      To save your life read "Pity The Billionaire" by Thomas Frank, and "Winner-Take-All-Politics" by Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson. Then read more books.

      by A Southerner in Yankeeland on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 04:42:31 PM PDT

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      •  this is false (3+ / 0-)
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        Older = More Primitive

        An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

        by don mikulecky on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 04:45:06 PM PDT

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        •  Uh-huh (0+ / 0-)

          The proofs you present are overwhelming, your evidence irrefutable, and your logic directly on point.

          Thanks.

          A Southerner in Yankeeland

          To save your life read "Pity The Billionaire" by Thomas Frank, and "Winner-Take-All-Politics" by Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson. Then read more books.

          by A Southerner in Yankeeland on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 08:17:49 AM PDT

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      •  Wow. (2+ / 0-)
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        Are you seriously equating "primitive" with "evil"?

      •  Unreliable? (2+ / 0-)
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        The more religious a person is the more unreliable they are as a source of truth or knowledge.
        I think that several of the folks on this list might disagree with you on that point.

        I do not suggest that those folks rose to scientific eminence because of their faith, but neither did they rise in spite of their faith.

        It's all about the balance between the two.  I merely suggest that, when we consider the millions of believers extant in the world, a healthy portion of them--if not a majority--balance science, faith and religion without imposition on others.

        Call out the ones who DON'T, certainly, but let's acknowledge those who DO.

        The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

        by wesmorgan1 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 01:05:27 PM PDT

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    •  Tipped for your last (sentence), shrike. (1+ / 0-)
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      The right of the women of this State to be secure in their persons against unreasonable searches shall not be violated by the State legislature.

      by Mayfly on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 04:56:19 PM PDT

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