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  •  I fear the only force that will mobilize.. (5+ / 0-)

    the people of this country will be the right wing, the Glenn Becks et al.

    Our party is overly cautious and meek on this subject(and, like the GOP, swimming in donations and other lucre). The Dem establishment views their history of championing these issues for the voters with suspicion and contempt.

    And it's a shame, because the fears and worries of the people will find a home. The question is whether it'll be healthy and democratic, or whether the Ted Cruz/Pauls/Palins, etc will use the energy of the people against their own interests.

    Le sigh...

    •  Fear of job loss a factor, but not the main issue (7+ / 0-)

      In the '60s jobs were pretty plentiful.  We had demos against companies at didn't hire black people, then massive anti-war protests.  Then in the '70s there was the grape boycott in support of farmworkers.  I never ate table grapes for about 30 years.  Only wine.  Boycotts against various companies followed.

      Now people all seem to be into their devices and Facebook pages and life seems a whole lot more trivial in many respects.  I think mass media dumbed things down.  Until Bush and then Obama people lost the sense that politics mattered.  But Obama was a disappointment because there wasn't sustained pressure in the first term and the GOP then adopted their obstructionist tactics and it seemed to wear everyone down. Occupy was promising, but seemed to fizzle out.  It needed more focus or direction or something.  

      I still have faith in young people and think that climate change will be the mobilizing issue when more people realize how their future is being irreparably stolen.  But for many people the present is being stolen too, and except for the dump the big banks movement and sporadic protests againt foreclosures, not much seems to have happened.  Maybe student loan debt  will be an issue?

      Don't bet your future on 97% of climate scientists being wrong. Take action on climate now!

      by Mimikatz on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 09:20:07 PM PDT

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      •  This is a great comment and I'm glad I saw it... (2+ / 0-)
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        b4 I crashed. I agree and I share your hope that there's a generation of dems coming along equipped for the task they face. And it's one of an active, questioning, demanding base. One with the courage of their convictions.

        I agree there wasn't sustained pressure in Obama's first term but I blame much of that inaction on his supporters, who shouted down any who raised complaints with stupid chants and goofy pictures designed to marginalize and quiet them.

        Instead we got slogan and mysticism. Scape-goating and strawmen. Politics is transactional. It's quid pro quo. I changed my sig to "the republicans are coming" right after President Obama got elected-not because I was upset, but b/c all the talk of new coalitions and bipartisanship struck me as sheer stupidity.

        The GOP has come, and they're still coming, and will again for the next Dem nominee. Hopefully we'll accept that as a fact and adjust? Or we can tell ourselves it'll get better when this guy leaves and we find someone "more centrist."


      •  Keep in mind (1+ / 0-)
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        We haven't had social media for all that long.  It's only been since 1996 or so that anything like it really took off.  Yet, we have people using that media very well to good ends, i.e. ballot initiatives and drives for change.  Without social media I would never have become a Dailykos member.  Without it I would know so much less because my local TV stations and cable media, almost as a whole, like to dumb shit down or obfuscate the truth.  I'm actually genuinely happy for modern Internet, because for as much as it can slow us down or cut down on our attention, it can raise both.

        Re climate change: this is something a lot of people are getting up in arms over.  We're actually seeing the effects now, and it is increasingly hard to argue with when whole sections of the country burn or are buried in a deluge of water.  There is a growing momentum for green tech and greening anything we can lay our hands on.  Starting local, with the gridlock in many sectors of political arenas, seems to be the way to go.  People can get onboard with generating their own energy; hard to that motivating work when the best you have is a carbon tax that is a poor selling point to one's neighbors.

        Re student loans:  With 50% of America firmly in poverty, and half of all graduates working poor or unemployed this is one bird that will have to come home to roost sooner or later.  The squashing pressure of student debt is enormous, and I am feeling it myself now as I scramble to inform my creditors I cannot possibly afford $500 a month.  My degree has, so far, garnered me nothing, not even a better paying job than $9 an hour.  With so many people like me scrambling for working poor jobs just to make a few ends meet and the constant pressure if not active work by our representatives to cut social safety nets, it won't be long before we're out in the streets and angry.  This is a disaster in the making.  You have a good chunk of young people struggling to find work, struggling to make ends meet while CEOs bilk the public and politicians make sweetheart deals with companies that don't pay their taxes?  This is not a good soup; the broth is bad and the ingredients are foul.

        "You have to let it all go, Neo. Fear, doubt, and disbelief. Free your mind." -Morpheus, The Matrix

        by Sarenth on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 02:16:44 AM PDT

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    •  their 'energy' is RW radio and the left ignoring i (0+ / 0-)


      that's the best thing they have and they're riding it and us off the deep end because the left doesn't like to listen or pay attention to RW radio.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 10:18:57 PM PDT

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