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  •  So, King is willing to ruin lives to help the GOP (16+ / 0-)

    win elections?

    I'm so not shocked I don't think there's a moving electron within 500 meters.

    See: Debt Ceiling default, ACA opposition, sabotage governing, and the rest of the GOP playbook.

    All those people who must suffer are just incidental damage as the only people who are entitled to any power seize more and more of it.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 08:13:59 AM PDT

    •  The GOP... (11+ / 0-)

      Would rather have the country go to shit than lose an election.  Party first.

      'Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost' - Ronald Reagan, Communist

      by RichM on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 08:30:32 AM PDT

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      •  The R's are content to be a small regional party (4+ / 0-)

        Look at that picture! Not a clue between the three of them.

        What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. King Henry, scene ii

        by TerryDarc on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 08:32:19 AM PDT

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        •  Small regional party? (3+ / 0-)

          The control the House of Representatives and many 'blue' state governments.

          'Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost' - Ronald Reagan, Communist

          by RichM on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 08:46:28 AM PDT

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          •  They control the House with a minority of votes (4+ / 0-)

            If we dolled out seats in the House by voting percentages it would be Democratic. And don't get me started on Wyoming's 600,000 residents holding the same power in the Senate as California's 38,000,000. The Republicans have worked hard to turn their obvious minority status into a legislative force to be reckoned with. But they are a clear minority.
             

            Sorry conservatives, but Occam's Razor isn't a beard trimmer for jihadists. What it means is I don't have to accept your crazy-assed theories as an alternative to reality.

            by ontheleftcoast on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 09:00:15 AM PDT

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            •  Which is why we should be pushing antigerrymander (4+ / 0-)

              ballot initiatives in states where we legally can like Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin.  

              -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)!

              by dopper0189 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 09:28:08 AM PDT

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              •  Wouldn't that have to go thru congress or SCOTUS? (1+ / 0-)
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                QED. Holding your breath or banging your head will have to suffice.

                What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. King Henry, scene ii

                by TerryDarc on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 10:14:15 AM PDT

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                •  Actually, I think dopper is right (1+ / 0-)
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                  The laws about how states apportion districts are solely their own business. In fact by overturning part of the VRA the SCOTUS as much said it's not the federal government's job to make oversee it. If we want to prevent future abuses of power by Repugs it seems working at the state level might be our best (and maybe only) hope.

                  Sorry conservatives, but Occam's Razor isn't a beard trimmer for jihadists. What it means is I don't have to accept your crazy-assed theories as an alternative to reality.

                  by ontheleftcoast on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 10:29:26 AM PDT

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                  •  Well, it is now! (1+ / 0-)
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                    You can legislate all you want and have it declared unconstitutional either at the state level or fed. Gross malfeasance on redistricting can and is being done at state levels and they're screwing us all over the place.

                    What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. King Henry, scene ii

                    by TerryDarc on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 02:45:55 PM PDT

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                •  Untrue. Anti-gerrymandering initiatives (1+ / 0-)
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                  are perfectly legal. We had one on last November's ballot. The problem is passing them when the Koch Brothers and other well-funded special interests are willing to pay tens of millions of dollars for the Republicans to lie them to defeat.

                  Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

                  by anastasia p on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 12:20:39 PM PDT

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                  •  Ibid (0+ / 0-)

                    You can try...

                    What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. King Henry, scene ii

                    by TerryDarc on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 02:46:34 PM PDT

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      •  Not even party first, they seem willing to destroy (4+ / 0-)
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        themselves in the blind pursuit of their ideology. Towards the end of Ken Burn's The Civil War there's a bit where the South realize they're going to lose and want to force slaves to fight for them. One of the leaders says that's a terrible idea and that if they find slaves make good soldiers it would ruin their ideology of slaves being inferior. He'd rather let the South "die of a theory" then risk being proven wrong about slavery. That's "modern" Republican thought. They refuse to even admit they're wrong about anything, abortion, immigration, global warming, anything and will blindly keep doing exactly the same shit they've done for the past 30 years even if (and probably when) the party dies from it. Is that loyalty to the party or something else?

        Sorry conservatives, but Occam's Razor isn't a beard trimmer for jihadists. What it means is I don't have to accept your crazy-assed theories as an alternative to reality.

        by ontheleftcoast on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 08:47:23 AM PDT

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    •  This is an excellent description of (3+ / 0-)
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      the civil war now going on in the Republican party.  The half of the GOP in favor of immigration reform are chastising the other half of the party for basing their argument against the bill on politics instead of solving the problem for the well-being of the country.  The first half favors immigration reform in order to appeal to Hispanic voters and the second half still dreams of deporting all 12 million "illegals."

      It's amusing to watch the family feud, but not amusing enough to think there might be a happy ending to this movie.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 08:53:03 AM PDT

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      •  I'd say the split is more between (0+ / 0-)

        the corporatist wing that sees both cheap (i.e. even cheaper) labor and a potential for electoral growth and the openly racist wing that both shares the gut-level xenophobia of their base and isn't willing to give up certain votes for potential votes. Agree that there is no happy ending in sight.

        "Think of something to make the ridiculous look ridiculous." -- Molly Ivins

        by dumpster on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 10:49:13 AM PDT

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    •  Well, really, King is willing to run lives (2+ / 0-)
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      to help the GOP lose elections.

      29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

      by TDDVandy on Wed Jul 10, 2013 at 08:59:47 AM PDT

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    •  He's willing to ruin lives in order to help (3+ / 0-)

      himself win elections. The GOP? Not so much.

      Republicans in states with growing Latino populations are screwed.

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